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Old 02-07-2005, 11:27 PM
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1999: writing and recording Crush
2000: writing/recording/touring Crush
2001: touring Crush/release One Wild Night
2002: writing/recording/touring Bounce
2003: touring Bounce, writing/recording TLFR
2004: writing/recording next CD, putting together the box set
2005: new CD on the horizon, tour coming up
The differences between the touring from Crush, OWN and Bounce is that those three tours combined together almost have the same amount of dates as the These Days tour alone. I think that iIf Jon would really be that interested in the music he makes he'd think that his new songs need to be heard live everywhere around the world.

Also, These Days was really the last Bon Jovi album meaning it was the last album that was really written by them alone. I know they've got a few co-writers, but not as many as on Crush and Bounce. On These Days it was about the music, on Crush and Bounce it was about how to make a song sound as easy listening as possible.

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Old 02-07-2005, 11:29 PM
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Well, maybe there's a contract he has to fill, and he's trying to do it as fast as possible. Last couple of tours has been sorry excuse for a proper tour, based on those (and last couple of releases) he sure doesnt seem too interested in music. TLFR was just old shite remade. Box set older shite and not even remade, not too much effort in 'em..........
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Old 02-07-2005, 11:31 PM
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Jon might not have said that he is bored with music or that he is giving it up but please, you have to read between the lines here. You have to see expression. Sometimes a person can say one thing but you know that they mean something else. You just have to read between the lines.
If Jon's bored with music, why is he still making it? Think about the last ten years.

1995: writing, recording and touring for These Days
1996: touring These Days, writing Destination Anywhere
1997: recording and promoting DA
1998: still promoting DA, writing and cutting demos for a possible 2nd solo CD
1999: writing and recording Crush
2000: writing/recording/touring Crush
2001: touring Crush/release One Wild Night
2002: writing/recording/touring Bounce
2003: touring Bounce, writing/recording TLFR
2004: writing/recording next CD, putting together the box set
2005: new CD on the horizon, tour coming up

For someone supposedly bored by and not interested in music, he sure is putting a lot of time into creating and promoting it. He has a life outside music, but there hasn't been a year go by that he hasn't been doing something music-related. He doesn't have to release a CD every year and even if the record company wanted another best of CD in 2003, they didn't have to do something different by re-recording the songs. It matters not so much how the CD went over with the fans, but the fact remains, they still were doing something creative with their music. If they weren't interested, they could have slapped It's My Life and some other singles on a CD and called it Greatest Hits II. If you want to talk about someone who's lost interest in making music, go talk to a Garth Brooks fan.

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Becky you are right but what you wrote belong to the PAST (until 2004 /2005 because we cannot confirm anything there) we are not talking about what Jon did before (I loved it soooooo much ) but we are talking about what Jon said about what is Jon wanting to to do NOW ... I never thought he was bored before I think he is bored now and what he wants is anything but not music ... something made him change ... It's more than heartbreaking but since months Jon is sending music fans messages that are more and more COLD toward the music and open toward business and entreprenership .. what can we do ? NOTHING .. but I still can say that I don't like it ... I was not super fan of Jon acting but well it's still a form or creation for me and I can still enjoy it totally but when Jon is having a blast to work with the soul and with samsung and the Philly community it's great for him but that doesn't bring me anything ... this is not something he can SHARE with the fans just the very local ones and still not much like stephanie said ... I can admire the guy dedication but if it's not more than that it's not enough for me ... I loved the ARTIST Jon even if I can admire the success of the lil guy from jersey who is now a huge big guy in the business this is not what made BON JOVI a magic band ... I still prefer the artist better than the business man ... I was ok as long as he parted his life in 2 the art and the business .. now it's mainly BUSINESS and a lil bit of art just to not forget it... to stay relevant they just have to ENJOY it and to put their heart in it they have to think its bring them something new something fresh something fun something they enjoy .. if not they'd better s... sorry but I still cannot type this word ... it hurts ....
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Old 02-07-2005, 11:37 PM
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I watched the interview and I have to say, I enjoyed it and I thought it was a great interview. I did not put this show on in the hopes of listening to Jon talk about music only but rather to hear what he had to say about other issues; politics, family, football, life, acting, etc., whatever it may be.

Music is not the only success he has had and I don't understand why people get so uptight and stressed when he speaks of other things. Is there not more to any of us outside of being Bon Jovi fans? Do you only speak about Bon Jovi and nothing else? My life does not begin and end with Jovi so why should his or any other member of the band be held to that?

I don't always agree with his views and ideas but I don't knock him simply because they don't agree with my own. I think he has incredible business sense and isnt afraid to try something new and that is something I do admire.

When it's closer to the release of the album/cd, whatever you wanna call it, I am sure we will hear alot of talk about it. The music unfortunately will not last forever and is not the only thing that interests him. Yes, they have an album coming out in May but why should he have to plug it. Obviously, he wasnt there to talk about a "new" album, he was there apparently to talk about many things, the host did state that Jon was there to talk about his passion for football and his successes as well as Jon as a marketing man.
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Well, while y'all all worry about where Jon's heart is and what his intentions are, I'm going to look forward to the next CD. If there's anything in the world that I do NOT fear it's that Jon will ever stop writing songs and making music. No matter what else has gone on in his life, the guitar and the pen have always been by his side. I may be wrong, but I'm not going to be concerned over an interview where Jon was noted to be ill and seemed enthusiastic about nothing. I'm sick today and don't have the energy to pop the lid on a can of chicken soup, so I can understand why he was far from animated about anything in that interview. If he does change, then so be it. Life goes on. But, he hasn't stopped making music yet. Quite honestly, I like most of Bounce better than most of SWW, so I don't need a throwback to the "good old days."

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Well, while y'all all worry about where Jon's heart is and what his intentions are, I'm going to look forward to the next CD. If there's anything in the world that I do NOT fear it's that Jon will ever stop writing songs and making music. No matter what else has gone on in his life, the guitar and the pen have always been by his side. I may be wrong, but I'm not going to be concerned over an interview where Jon was noted to be ill and seemed enthusiastic about nothing. I'm sick today and don't have the energy to pop the lid on a can of chicken soup, so I can understand why he was far from animated about anything in that interview. If he does change, then so be it. Life goes on. But, he hasn't stopped making music yet. Quite honestly, I like most of Bounce better than most of SWW, so I don't need a throwback to the "good old days."

Becky
A throwback to the good old days doesn't have to mean it's supposed to be Slippery or Jersey or whatever alike. When saying back to the good old days most people mean songs that sound honest, rock songs that are true rock songs and a singer with a band that cares more about the performance than about how many times the singer should switch clothes.

I don't care if he'll always be writing songs, if he's uninspired the songs will be boring. Writing songs without inspiration doesn't work. They had writing sessions for These Days but the songs are inspired by things that happened in their life. Hey God - the beggar on the streets. Hearts Breaking Even - Richie going out for the first time after a period of being alone. My Guitar - being afraid of not having any inspiration.

Nowadays they write about a situation that's in their head. I mean, Right Side Of Wrong, is there anyone who can relate to something like that?

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Becky, I understand what you are saying and I know all that information about the touring and the CD but that was in the past. Now a days, Jon just doesn't seem too happy with the music industry at all. Is it because he is bored or he is frustrated with how everything is changing? It could be a bit of both but you can't say that you can't notice a change in him? TLFR was released and it was sort of there you have it, go out and found it on your own. No promotion. Same with the boxset, just released out there and let it just do it's own business. I know all about the die-hards but something has got to give. There is no excitment at all for him to talk about it. I hope that it changes with the new CD and we see an excited Jon come and talk about the new CD. I hope that I am wrong and I will come back here and bow my head in shame and stand in the corner but something tells me that the times they are a changing.
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Becky, I understand what you are saying and I know all that information about the touring and the CD but that was in the past. Now a days, Jon just doesn't seem too happy with the music industry at all. Is it because he is bored or he is frustrated with how everything is changing? It could be a bit of both but you can't say that you can't notice a change in him? TLFR was released and it was sort of there you have it, go out and found it on your own. No promotion. Same with the boxset, just released out there and let it just do it's own business. I know all about the die-hards but something has got to give. There is no excitment at all for him to talk about it. I hope that it changes with the new CD and we see an excited Jon come and talk about the new CD. I hope that I am wrong and I will come back here and bow my head in shame and stand in the corner but something tells me that the times they are a changing.
stephanie I fell the same as you exactly I hope that I am wrong and I will come back here and bow my head in shame and stand in the corner but something tells me that the times they are a changing .. me too !!! I hope so badly that I am wrong ...
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ok new girl jumping into a thread. watch out haha
I guess I'm agreeing a little with all of you but Becky is making the most sense to me. See, I for one am a big football fan so for Jon to be involved in the AFL is wonderful to me!! I know that overseas people don't share that excitement...for good reason too. They can't really participate unless it's via us talking here of at <gasp!> Backstage. But I have to say that if I'm watching the Soul I'm not really looking for Jon. He's just a perk
I'll agree with what Supersonic says about These Days. To me it's a real true From the Heart of the Guys album. But to say they're not inspired isn't accurate (JMHO). They're just inspired by different evernts...aka in Bounce it was 9-11. Yes there are songs on Bounce that are just...well, songs...like Right Side of Wrong. And I think the guys have said that that song was styled like a Billy Joel or Elton John kind of Story-type song. I would say they were trying a different style if you will. Who knows what this new album will bring us (But I, like becky and thrilled to see what their collaboration with Keith Urban is like!)
Anyway...Mimi, what would we all do if Jon were to turn around after this new album and say "That's it...I'm done." Me...yeah I'd be upset...this is Bon Jovi after all...my favorite band for forever!! But sadly it's not our choice. They have to do what they have to do. Maybe they're tired of the lifestyle...they're settled with families and new, quieter interests. Hopefully we'll always have a new album to look forward to every couple of years but someday we may not. I say just enjoy it while it's here, and enjoy other things as well.
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Anyway...Mimi, what would we all do if Jon were to turn around after this new album and say "That's it...I'm done." Me...yeah I'd be upset...this is Bon Jovi after all...my favorite band for forever!! But sadly it's not our choice. They have to do what they have to do. Maybe they're tired of the lifestyle...they're settled with families and new, quieter interests. Hopefully we'll always have a new album to look forward to every couple of years but someday we may not. I say just enjoy it while it's here, and enjoy other things as well.
I agree with you totally .. but if Jon is not happy in the music anymore if he doesn't have the fire inside anymore this is sad but I cannot do anything to change it so if jon is tired he can stop they have to do what they have to do !!! YES ! but i 'd rather have a great band who stopped with an honorable 20 years of success better than a band that keep on doing it with no more faith no more fire inside no more passion ... music is a form of art you have to be inspired and commited if not it won't be good ..if it's a cd that has to be done to honor a contract and no fun or enjoyement it's just sad
oh la la sorry I am rambling ...but I want to say that I am enjoying the tone here .we can be civil on dry county I heard and I admit even said not very nice things... it's not true this board is cool ...
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