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Old 02-10-2010, 06:23 PM
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There is NO reason to write full sentences in caps.

This man's study doesn't mean it should be taken as the only factual proof about vocal chords.

If it is true that one should not sing while sick or with strep throat, surely Jon is a genius then right?
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It's just, you know, I hate negativity on this board.

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Sebastiaan, stop this right now. You are spamming this thread Oh and leave your negativity somewhere over there in The Netherlands
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Sebastiaan, stop this right now. You are spamming this thread Oh and leave your negativity somewhere over there in The Netherlands
But I am. I am quoting a person from the Dutch board now;

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The fact that he took steroids is well documented and is a thing Jon admitted several times,
I think he only took steroids in the 80s. Personally I think his peak was early 90s, sounded fantastic then. Even by 1995 I think it had started to go downhill a bit, although he was still a top rock vocalist at this point.

We all know that Jon abused his voice and overstrained it in the 80s. But we also know that he recovered from that and sang great in the early 90s. At this point he was not abusing his voice. But from the mid 90s onwards he went downhill steeply until now only a Bon Jovi fan will complement his singing. I think it was the smoking most likely, it certainly isn't age. More than the loss of range, his tone really bothers me now; it's not nice to listen to. In the old days he had such a pleasant and rich tone.
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I think it could well be down to all the live shows that he's played over the years, and all the nights he really pushed himself to hit all the high notes. Not all vocalists would have been capable of hitting the ones Jon did in the 80s, and I guess singing Prayer every night would ruin your voice after a while. It's not just Jon it's happened to, but others as well. Roger Daltery's voice has deteriorated in the same way. He used to be able to hit high notes and sing with such power for a number of years, but after 40 years and screaming his head off every night then it's not too difficult to see why. I am aware that other people have been able to maintain they're voices better, such as Mick Jagger and Steven Tyler, but certainly in some cases I think it's just down to age and fatigue. Obviously smoking doesn't help but is it actually clinically proven that smoking can lead to you losing your voice?
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I also think that age and fatigue are the main factors why Jon’s voice is not as good as it used to be in the past. Do any of you think that Usain Bolt will run 100m in 9,58s when he’s 48 years old? It’s just simply impossible. So don’t expect Jon to sing like he was 25 years old again. Given the fact how many shows the band has done since 1983 it’s obvious that his voice chords wore down gradually. It’s just humans body, nothing else. Of course smoking is not making any good also, but as a matter of fact none of us really knows how many cigarettes he smokes a day. Just because we have seen him smoking in the documentary doesn’t mean he smokes about 20 per day or more.

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He left behind his chest singing and became a throat singer ... which really limits the notes you can reach not to mention the endurance of your vocal chords.
There is no way for a vocalist like Jon to be a throat singer. With the intensity of their tours, number of albums and high notes in the songs etc there is no other option for him than to sing from diaphragm (I hope that’s the right word in English, correct me if I’m wrong). If he would sing at least one show with his throat only probably he couldn’t speak at all afterwards (especially after songs like Prayer, Always or Keep The Faith). And I think that relates also to any professional singer. These are simply basics of professional singing.


But anyway I agree with marta anna. You can say anything you want about his voice, but the truth is that there are very few (if any) young artists in today’s entertainment world that sing like he used to sing in the 80/90 when he was at his highest or even as good as he is right now. 20 years ago he was phenomenal, right now he is very very good which is still outstanding. It’s just that our expectations are still in the past but time has touched Jon’s voice and there is nothing that any of us nor Jon himself can do about it.
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I also think that age and fatigue are the main factors why Jon’s voice is not as good as it used to be in the past. Do any of you think that Usain Bolt will run 100m in 9,58s when he’s 48 years old? It’s just simply impossible. So don’t expect Jon to sing like he was 25 years old again.
I disagree with regards to age and fatigue. There are plenty of older singers than Jon who sing as well, some better than they used to when they were younger. Yes singers can lose a bit of range when they get old. But in Jon's case it it is so much more than that, he has completely lost his old tone. A Jovi fan in the early 90s would not be able to recognize Jon's 2010 singing voice. The deterioration is that extreme. There is definitely much more to it than aging. Maybe it's the smoking or some other problem with his vocal chords which I am not aware of. Maybe as somebody said he has ruptured them and had to have surgery. I don't know but it surely isn't just aging...

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But anyway I agree with marta anna. You can say anything you want about his voice, but the truth is that there are very few (if any) young artists in today’s entertainment world that sing like he used to sing in the 80/90 when he was at his highest or even as good as he is right now.
Agree with the former. Few can hold a cangle to him at his peak. But now he is very mediocre, if you put him in disguise and get him to perform nobody will be impressed at all with his voice.
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20 years ago he was phenomenal, right now he is very very good which is still outstanding.
I certainly wouldn't describe his voice as outstanding, not if recent material is anything to go by. Before 1996 he was an outstanding singer but now I'd say he's average at best.
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