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Old 09-21-2016, 11:55 AM
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I thought it was a really good speech. Only thing I didn't like was that stupid 'power of we' thing he constantly says.

I hate the way he sees it.
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That in no way makes him a bad person. There are plenty of liberal democrats who frequently post here and agree with that ideology.

Personally I'm a moderate.
Raises hand although I am very liberal socially but a bit more middle of the road fiscally. I don't agree with the "playing the part" bit but no need to get into to my rehash of reasons lol!!
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I don't agree with the "playing the part" bit but no need to get into to my rehash of reasons lol!!
Most Liberals wouldn't...

The problem I have with the Liberal mindset of 2016 is that it's everybody's fault except the person committing the crime...And even more so because they are afraid of offending someone...
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Most Liberals wouldn't...

The problem I have with the Liberal mindset of 2016 is that it's everybody's fault except the person committing the crime...And even more so because they are afraid of offending someone...
This is hilarious considering that Trump never accepts responsibility for anything and blames everyone else when things go wrong...not to mention doubling down on statements that have been proven incorrect. He has already said that if he loses, it will be because the election is rigged. Can't wait until this election is over.
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Most Liberals wouldn't...

The problem I have with the Liberal mindset of 2016 is that it's everybody's fault except the person committing the crime...And even more so because they are afraid of offending someone...
I never understand the addressing of someone saying liberal this or that. I never address my friends that I know are conservative as "you conservative". Boy, how big of a brush are you using to paint those BROAD strokes lol!! It's not being politically correct to be human and not an asshole!!
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Same honest question from me: from my point of view, as far as news coverage and so on are over here, I thought Clinton (and Obama, if not as successfull) did a pretty goob job, whereas George W. Bush only did wars, lies, and other crap, just as Trump sets out to do. Or am I missing something ?!
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I never understand the addressing of someone saying liberal this or that. I never address my friends that I know are conservative as "you conservative". Boy, how big of a brush are you using to paint those BROAD strokes lol!! It's not being politically correct to be human and not an asshole!!
Yup. Left vs. Right is a fun sports game to play for some, but in reality and policy making ideologists are idiots. As Louis CK once said - it doesn’t make sense that you’d have the same solution to every issue.
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Same honest question from me: from my point of view, as far as news coverage and so on are over here, I thought Clinton (and Obama, if not as successfull) did a pretty goob job, whereas George W. Bush only did wars, lies, and other crap, just as Trump sets out to do. Or am I missing something ?!
The problem is, it depends on what coverage you are watching.... The Democrats control the media and twist, spin, and manipulate the news... That's why you see very few Republicans get celebrity support...It's even to the point that most celebrities will be blackballed from Hollywood if they don't support Democratic parties...

What Trump is doing is coming out and stating that he is not a politician and the media can't control him... Although he states outlandish things at times, he's doing it to get a rise out of the media...

Example: Trump wants to put a temporary ban on Muslims entering the country until we get control of the situations. That's what he wants and that's what he stated... The media is twisting this into Trump hating all Muslims and being a racist... The Liberals for some reason believe the Media so Trump just keeps ****ing with them...

Building a wall wherever to keep our Country safe is not a bad thing... Even if the idea is outlandish, he still has the right intention...

Calling Rosie O'Donnell a pig or to make a statement about Hillary playing the women's card doesn't mean he hates women.

I actually believe Trump... I think he truly has this countries best interest at heart no matter what he states... Hillary will sell her soul for a vote. The Clinton's have always been corrupt. Hillary has been working under Obama as Sectary Of State and has failed miserably so why someone would want he in office is beyond me... Before any of you reply, google 'Hillary and Benghazi', familiarize yourself with the situation, try to justify it, and then lets see if you share that same opinion...
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The problem is, it depends on what coverage you are watching.... The Democrats control the media and twist, spin, and manipulate the news... That's why you see very few Republicans get celebrity support...It's even to the point that most celebrities will be blackballed from Hollywood if they don't support Democratic parties...

What Trump is doing is coming out and stating that he is not a politician and the media can't control him... Although he states outlandish things at times, he's doing it to get a rise out of the media...

Example: Trump wants to put a temporary ban on Muslims entering the country until we get control of the situations. That's what he wants and that's what he stated... The media is twisting this into Trump hating all Muslims and being a racist... The Liberals for some reason believe the Media so Trump just keeps ****ing with them...

Building a wall wherever to keep our Country safe is not a bad thing... Even if the idea is outlandish, he still has the right intention...

Calling Rosie O'Donnell a pig or to make a statement about Hillary playing the women's card doesn't mean he hates women.

I actually believe Trump... I think he truly has this countries best interest at heart no matter what he states... Hillary will sell her soul for a vote. The Clinton's have always been corrupt. Hillary has been working under Obama as Sectary Of State and has failed miserably so why someone would want he in office is beyond me... Before any of you reply, google 'Hillary and Benghazi', familiarize yourself with the situation, try to justify it, and then lets see if you share that same opinion...
And Trump paying legal fees with his foundation's (other people's) money is not corrupt? Somehow though he seems to escape any real scrutiny (although the NY attorney general has opened up a case on his foundation) unlike Hilary who has controversy if she sneezes. And if he had the country's best interest at heart he would actually take the time to learn what he doesn't know. That's my biggest criticism of him he talks in platitudes and hyperbole vs giving factual information.
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And if he had the country's best interest at heart he would actually take the time to learn what he doesn't know. That's my biggest criticism of him he talks in platitudes and hyperbole vs giving factual information.
But he is learning and has admitted to it... And if talking in platitudes and hyperbole vs giving factual information is bothering you, I guess you'd rather believe unrealistic lies and twisted facts... Like Obama Care actually works and free college education is a real thing (even though that was Bernie)...

I think Trump held his own against Matt Lauer and answered all questions to the point of destroying Hillary 70% to 30% on that night... He's come a long way since he stated this election and give me an example where is blowing smoke and can't answer...

Hows this one:
The Media... 'Tell us your plan for destroying ISIS?' Trump 'Sure, lets announce to the enemy how we plan on destroying them so they can plan a counter... Liberals "Trump talks in platitudes and hyperbole vs giving factual information"
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