Jon's Voice

some very true comments in there you guys!

I liked the comment in whitney lol!!

yer smoking isnt the only factor im sure and i forgot bout what happened with the slippery and new jersey tour when he nearly ruined his voice

and also im sure of all the people..including me who sometimes get dissapointed with his voice sometimes etc i bet Jon gets the most diasspointed when he cant reach a note or sing a song

Okay I have a question.. I know that Jon "says" he began smoking on the set of Moonlight and Valentino in 95 but I have seen pics of him where he has had a cigarette in his hand that look like they are from 93 or so. Also there is a scene in Access all Area where the band is walking to the stage for a show and Jon clearly has something in his mouth that looks like a cigarette that he throws on the ground.. so does anyone know did he start smoking before 95? Cause i think he might have and then it perhaps became a real habit when he began acting...

He's probably one of those people who had one every once in a while before he got addicted. There are two issues of Backstage where he said he didn't smoke. What's the point of lying about smoking? Richie, Tico, and Alec were always smoking in pix/videos in the 80's, so it's not like it's some reason to hang his head in shame.

People who smoke are just weak!
And if you REALLY want to quit smoking, you can. It's the same with loosing weight. If you really want it, you'll manage.

I'm not even going to bother replying to that....

On a slightly different direction about Jon's voice, ever since HAND has been released everyone's been moaning about him singing in a low key on Last Man Standing. Not once have I read someone say that his voice sounds good on it. Am I the only one that likes the lower, throatier vocals that he has slipped into occasionly? Like at the beginning of say These Arms Are Open All Night, or Thank You For Loving Me. Or, to give an even better example, throughout most of Queen Of New Orleans, that song is great without the need for Jon to overstretch his voice. Not every single Bon Jovi song needs to be sung in the same or similar key, which is why I like LMS, cos it sounds a bit different.

Therefore, my recommendations for the next album: For a start it needs to be at least another 4 years away, to give them a good break inbetween. Jon could try to give up smoking I suppose, but I don't really expect him to. Jon should play about with different keys and different styles of singing - that's definetly one thing I liked about This Left Feels Right. And finally, maybe go for a stripped down production approach on Jon's vocals, so that he sounds at least similar on tour to what he does on the album.

Ever hear Ian Gillan live?

I feel the same way. I really like the vocals on LMS and I love Jon's voice on Queen Of New Orleans and all of Destination Anywhere, the majority of which seems to be sung alot lower. I'm really not fond of Jon's very high vocals, Always demo and Starting All Over Again, for example. A song dosen't have to be sung in that high a key to be a great song.

I agree also about the idea for a new album but definitely not four years from now. Early 2007 would be a good time to release a new studio album.



Phil

All of those things are easy to stop doing, staying off takes work. And think about it, it's not easy to put on all that weight or smoke all those cigarette etc. so it's just as "easy" to do the opposite. You're very right though, everybody knows over eating or smoking or taking drugs or excessive drinking is bad for them but they're doing it because they are getting some positive gain, and they can be very different for different people. Despite the differences however, the methods to get somebody to permanently stay off cigarettes or drugs or alcahol or over eating or whatever is the same and it works because they follow the laws of why people do what they do. It's basic science, think of it like Maths, the numbers may change but the was the formula to solve a certain problem is always the same

It'd be pretty simple to get Jon off cigarettes. I've heard him say he smokes becuase he enjoys it as it relaxes him. Bullsh*t. Nicotine is a stimulint, the reason you become relaxed is that you breath deeply from your diaphram and it's that breathing that relaxes you. So the thing is, you make the person realise they are becoming relaxed inspite of the fact you're smoking. Then you give them techniques to becoming even more relaxed in a fraction of the time it takes to smoke a cigarette. Right there you've removed any positive gain from smoking, thus they've no reason to do it. Dose that mean they'll magically stop? Of course not but then you can easily get them to the point where they never want to smoke again, and that's the important issue, the person has to truly want to give them up. Then you simpy get them to link huge amounts of pain to the idea of smoking and thus they will be far less likely to start again. They'll also be gaining pleasures from sticking to their new set of beliefs and values and very quickly the mere thought of smoking will disgust the person and that is, in the most basic sense, how you help a person quit ciggarettes forever.



Phil

Bullshit. It's proven that some people are a lot more prone to addictions than others, it's chemical thing. No will power is going to help you there. Why does a big percentage ofpeople who quit drugs/alcohol/cigarettes fall of the wagon again?

Oh, you're the expert, I forgot.

Only partially true. Once you become addicted to nicotine, you need it in order to feel "normal". No amount of breathing is going to change that.

Yeah, like electric shock? Where were you brought up? In a barrel?

Ice