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Old 10-16-2016, 10:43 PM
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I don't think the reason rarities were dropped in 2013 was because of vocal stuff. He DID do rarities that tour btw (Undivided, some album cuts from These Days). Pulling a song out of nowhere is more complicated when it becomes "Has Phil learned this one"

Also someone mentioned tuning to Eb, they've been doing that for decades. Going even lower, I think would just sound wrong.
There is also what defines rarities and I do not limit my definition or high ranking of them to songs from These Days or prior. After The Circle /Greatest Hits Tour, I kind of had my appetite for those filled and getting Dry County in LA on the BWC tour didn't do anything for me.

Undivided is a bona fide rarity now, as would be Next 100 Years, The Distance, or even One Last Cigarette. "Everyday" practically qualifies as a rarity! I remember folks being quite excited when they opened with Bounce in 2011.. I believe it was in London?
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I don't think the reason rarities were dropped in 2013 was because of vocal stuff. He DID do rarities that tour btw (Undivided, some album cuts from These Days). Pulling a song out of nowhere is more complicated when it becomes "Has Phil learned this one"
That's why I said halfway through the 2013 tour. What rarities did he do starting September? Thick as Thieves? He stopped doing them after the European leg for the most part. It's no coincidence that starting September most ballads were dropped from the regular set (the ballads actually became the rarities!), Saturday Night electric was permanently replaced with acoustic version, etc.

If you don't think Jon's voice was the reason for drastic changes in the setlist from legs 1-3 to 4-5, you are wrong. Jon's voice has EVERYTHING to do with EVERYTHING as far as setlists go.
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I remember folks being quite excited when they opened with Bounce in 2011.. I believe it was in London?
Dresden I was there...and excited
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Dresden I was there...and excited
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Really? Was there myself and had forgotten about that
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Does he has a vocal coach?
Yeah, still does.

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Yep. This and Undivided


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I was also in Dresden and for me was one of the best shows of the tour.
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Guys please stay on topic.

This thread is for one purpose only - trash Jon's voice
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I just don't get how weak he is on songs in such low keys. I think it's more than just his range has gone. He's got no confidence in his vocals. He's playing it extra safe on songs he should/could be singing with more power.
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