Jovi or U2 (who is bigger or better?)

We had discussion about it. Somwhere were information that BJ + solo stuff (probably Jon + Richie) were sold more than 150 mln.

120 mln were before LH and after year of selling LH has sold around 3,5 mln (official)

1.Bon Jovi - /210.6/
Rest:Bruce Springsteen /204,5 mln/ , Madonna/162mln/, The Police /150 mln/, Celine Dion /91 mln/., Kenny Chesney /86 mln/, Neil Diamond /81.2 mln/, Spice Girls /70 mln/, Eagles /56.6 mln/, Rascal Flatts /55.8 mln/.

1.They were choosen to open Wembley and they didn't do it just because wembley were not finished yet.
Rolling Stones wanted to open it but BJ were choosen and even Jon joke in 1 interview that if RStones want to open Wembley they can be their supports.
Now they probably will never play at wembley again because AEG lost money trying to organize this show (they have problems with owners of wembley stadium).

Bon Jovi not U2 opened O2 - the same arena which have choosen for Jackson shows.

They don't play on biggest stadium just because AEG have contract with another areas.

BTW Twickenham or City of Manchester Stadium are not small stadiums.

o_O listen end of Save The World, listen TYFLMe or IMLife ... Jon's voice is amazing here. I can't imagine Bono singing this songs. I think that Jon wouldn't have any problems to sings all songs from AYCLB or HTDAB
Objectively I can say thak Bono voice on this 2 album is good but Jon's voice is far better in Crush.

In Poland HAND wsa hit (In European charts this song were high). Misunderstood also have his good time but TYFLMe were big hit in our country.

Aloha !

Erm, Have A Nice Day was pretty big in Europe. Not as big as It's My Life, but it's still one of their biggest hits since Crush. The others weren't, but everyone knew Have A Nice Day when it was released.

But none of those bands do 6 stadium dates in the UK. Bon Jovi do. Metallica most of the time do one or 2 dates in the UK, and most of the time they're festival dates as well. The Eagles don't tour that much, and Springsteen doesn't do stadium tours as often in the UK as Bon Jovi do either.

Richie and Jon know nothing about Bono's voice. In 2003 Jon said that Bono's voice was better than ever while U2 fans were complaining that it was shot. Just like Jon's voice was shot to bits back in 2003. Jon's singing on the Lost Highway tour was way better than Bono's singing has ever been since 2000.

It's pathetic that you always need to bash someone else when you disagree with him and can't make your own valid points. If you feel the need to make someone else look like a fool you have to make sure that the things you say make sense. Right now, they don't, which is why you're the sycophantic goon in this topic.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

What have I said that doesn't make sense?

All my posts have been personal opinion and any details correct, you wrote that "Springsteen didn't tour last year" that shows how much you know doesn't it?

You just make things up to back your arguments, which make you look pretty stupid.

Keep it up

Just out of curiosity which Bon Jovi's songs would you refer to as "deep" ? I think in general their lyrics are fairly obvious, and usually cliched.

They have good songs, great songs even, but I am not sure "deep" is the right word, so I'm curious.

Now in the U.K., U2 might be still be played on big stations, but here in the U.S, U2 haven't had a major hit since Beautiful day, which was minor here in the U.S. Vertigo was a minor hit and its mainly the first single like Beautiful day and Vertigo that got any airplay, all the rest of their singles got very little airplay. Where as Bon Jovi are still being played on major radio stations in steady rotation. Bon Jovi has had more hits than U2 since 2000, at least here in the U.S.

Take a read at this article entitled: What do you do when you haven't had a hit in half a decade?
http://www.examiner.com/x-448-SF-Rad...-half-a-decade

Aloha !

Springsteen did tour, but not as much as Bon Jovi did, as far as I'm aware. And even so, if I was wrong I'm not the one spouting off about others being sycophantic goons.

I just summed up pretty well what was wrong about your post, but here it goes:

a) Have A Nice Day not being a hit is not a fact and an incorrect detail.

b) Who's voice is better is not a matter of opinion when a singer can't reach the notes he used the able to hit. Jon can still hit it while Bono simply can't.

c) Comparing Metallica's, Eagles' and Springsteen's stadium tours to the ones from Bon Jovi is comparing apples to oranges which makes it the third incorrect fact.

Well done.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Different strokes I guess. Those songs you pointed to are perfectly examples to me of how bad Jon's voice was during Crush. He sounds completely nasal and grating to me, and the power is gone. What's sad about that to me, as a fan, is that I would probably like those songs if he could sing them with anything approaching the same power and clarity he used to have. Compare those songs to the warmth in his voice on I'll Be There For You or even Lie to Me. It's just... gone. I have some hope for the new album as I think the Stand By Me single is vocally promising and he sounded light years better last tour.

As for Bono, I think songs like Beautiful Day, Kite, and Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own are vocally incredible, especially given the context of age and the throat problems he's had. Even at his hang-over, raspy worst(ie. In A little While), I think there's a quality to his voice that is so rare it's good even at it's "worst".

But you've shown the beauty of music, what sounds bad to one person can sound great to another. That's all that matters.

I do agree that they are obviously more than a party band(that's one of the reasons they are my favorite band), but I think when a good percentage of your "hits" contain terms like "You Give Love a Bad Name" "Bad Medicine" and "I'll Sleep When I'm Dead" the label(fairly or not) will inevitably come.

As mentioned Bruce Springsteen was on tour and as a matter of fact Bruce's magic tour started before BJ's LH tour. U2 and Bruce are better comparisons because their in the same ticket price range. No one will beat the Stones because of their ridiculous ticket prices, not even Madonna. Also there were still major names on tour, Bruce who's tour came in about 20 million less than Jovi's, Madonna, The Police and Celine Dion.

Hey God, These Days, Something To Believe In, Keep The Faith, Dry County, Blood on Blood, to name a few.