Jovi's direction

Really. They don't. Hm.

hey all!

I think Bounce sounded too electronic, not raw guitar talent, which they say is what makes them stand out from all the other music out there just now. HAND has a few brilliant songs (e.g. Last Man Standing) but none that'll be talked about 50 years from now.

They need an album like TD or KTF; one that grabs your attention from Track 1, with lyrics and guitar solos that give you shivers; I've not been getting that from the last few albums.

I just hope they make at least one more killer album before they get too old to tour - they always say they wanna stop before they start going downhill, and realistically, it's gonna happen sooner rather than later

Livin' On A Prayer - It's My Life - Everyday - Bounce - Have A Nice Day

i am so so bored of reeading this tuff over and over again. Didn't we all agree that yes Bon Jovi suck and we should just listen to New Jersey and Keep The Faith and pretend that Crush was never released? blah blah

I was going for entire record when I say they don't repeat themselves. I don't know of any songwriter out there that doesn't recycle certain themes.

deb

Amen. I would like to add Bounce and HAND on that never released list.


The band is not stupid. They are going the direction they wanted to go. I mean they wanted to keep selling albums and apealing to young and new generations.
The way they did this could be called "the easy way", "the effortless way".
If I'm wrong.. How come there are no good solos, no good intros, no good keyboard, no good drums, no good outros? How come HAND ends just like Everyday and It's My Life?
Those albums are full of songs that could be mistaken with any of the songs that are getting air play these days.
How come if jon's voice is so much better like everybody says he don't sing Bed of Roses or I'll Be There For You, if not in the TLFR way (which he said he wouldn't play live in the tour)?

It's because of what they said "They don't feel like cowboys anymore, they feel like bussiness men when on tour."

The fact is without the post TD records they would not have gained any new fans and would have just faded into oblivion.

And Jon did sing the harder songs this tour like Dry County and These Days so I don't think he's shying away from the hard songs that much. He has called IBTFY Richie's song now so I think that's why he's not singing that one.

deb

Christ, it doesn't matter if many agreee with you or not, that is just your ****ing opinion, just state it as one.

Yeah I kinda see what you're saying. However, as many musicians out there will know, when they play live, they play every song 1 half-step/semitone down from the studio version e.g. Prayer is in Eb minor instead of E minor. That is, apart from In These Arms, which, in the studio, is in the key of E major whilst live it is in the key of C# major which is THREE semitones below the original. When Jon sings the 'Baaaaaabeeeey' after 'and these were our words, they keep me strong', the highest note is C# above top C, then the B below top C. So.....this means that live, the notes should be Bb and Ab, which should be fairly ok for Jon to sing. However, when he's been singing it, he completely avoids hitting the high Bb, even though its 3 semitones below the original!!

How does this justify him still having a good voice? Yes, he can sing in tune, but not as high as he used to be able to which I think is one of the bands trademarks. Also, when you say he's still making the attempt e.g. end of These Days, why?? There's nothing that sounds worse than someone trying to reach a note they can't........its the same story with the 'Livin', on a prayer' after the second chorus. Dave sang it for him in Amsterdam, but Jon sang anyway. He must know he can't comfortably reach it so why try and sound bad?

I think Crush is one of their best albums personally...i have a bit of a soft spot for it as it was the first Jovi album i got and all that but now i have all the others i still seem to go back to it more than most...its got lots of great tracks on i think....its my life, say it isnt so, thanku for lovin me, just older, save the world, one wild night....and i have soft spots for nxt 100 yrs and 2 story town aswell.......

i think its great myself....i prefer the style of that much more than the style of HAND even tho HAND is great...i dont like the whole kind of poppy sound of some HAND songs e.g. last ciggarete, complicated... which are clearly aimed at the younger generation....