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Old 06-28-2006, 06:44 PM
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Yeah I kinda see what you're saying. However, as many musicians out there will know, when they play live, they play every song 1 half-step/semitone down from the studio version e.g. Prayer is in Eb minor instead of E minor. That is, apart from In These Arms, which, in the studio, is in the key of E major whilst live it is in the key of C# major which is THREE semitones below the original. When Jon sings the 'Baaaaaabeeeey' after 'and these were our words, they keep me strong', the highest note is C# above top C, then the B below top C. So.....this means that live, the notes should be Bb and Ab, which should be fairly ok for Jon to sing. However, when he's been singing it, he completely avoids hitting the high Bb, even though its 3 semitones below the original!!

How does this justify him still having a good voice? Yes, he can sing in tune, but not as high as he used to be able to which I think is one of the bands trademarks. Also, when you say he's still making the attempt e.g. end of These Days, why?? There's nothing that sounds worse than someone trying to reach a note they can't........its the same story with the 'Livin', on a prayer' after the second chorus. Dave sang it for him in Amsterdam, but Jon sang anyway. He must know he can't comfortably reach it so why try and sound bad?
I wish I could do the note for note and key for key thing with you but I can't. I'm an accountant, lol. Okay, but what about when he sings the "nothing I wouldn't do part" (again listen to the AC show in Feb. 2006, this is a quality performance of this song). On the Bounce tour, he didn't even go for that high part at all, this tour he has. I can't remember the last time he sang the really high, "baaaaaaby". Probably the KTF tour.

The thing is you say, don't sing it if you can't sing it the way you wrote it but others say sing it no matter what. It seems he can't win either way. I'm guessing if Jon had to do it all over again he would have NEVER written some of these songs with such high parts. Personally, I don't think singing really high was ever comfortable for him even in the younger years.

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Old 06-28-2006, 06:52 PM
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I love Crush, I love Bounce, I love HAND. I also love all of their older albums too. I don't think that they are going downhill. Crush, Bounce, and HAND have just as many listenable songs as SWW or TD do. Agian if you don't like them, just don't listen to them. Go pretend they didn't exist and quit bitching about them. Some people love them, like me.
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I love Crush, I love Bounce, I love HAND. I also love all of their older albums too. I don't think that they are going downhill. Crush, Bounce, and HAND have just as many listenable songs as SWW or TD do. Agian if you don't like them, just don't listen to them. Go pretend they didn't exist and quit bitching about them. Some people love them, like me.
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no. thats what we call someone who has different taste.
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In my opinion Have a nice day is a good album with only few tracks to skip. But what I realized during the two concerts I visited: some live songs are very slow! I have to mention Last man standing, Radio saved my life tonight, Complicated for example. Did you realize it, too? I think it's a pitty! They are faster on the album.
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no. thats what we call someone who has different taste.
Thank You.

I can admit when songs suck though. *cough* "She's A Mystery" *cough*
But just because I happen to like Crush etc. as much as These Days etc. doesn't mean I'm a blind follower.
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