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Originally Posted by MrSambo
I feel your pain and frustration as a 'more than casual' fan when it comes to the predictability and redundance of the songs on the setlist but some of the comments flying on this board are just assinine.
First, don't judge a concert that you have not attended. The setlist is just a small part of the event. The atmosphere generated by the band and the audience can make a show with a poor setlist good or ruin a show with a great setlist. Its almost like a true football fan can appreciate a 0-0 tie as opposed to a crappy game with lots of goals.
Second, This is a show to promote the new album. As such, they have been playing 6 to 7 Bounce songs and that only leave room for 13/14 other songs. When you take into account that songs like Bad name, bad Rx, prayer, IML, Wanted HAVE to be played, that doesn't leave the band with much options. And those of you who are frequent concert goers of other bands, you know that compared to the others out there Jovi does spice up the shows by making them different from the previous nights.
Sure, I miss the excitement of hearing something that I haven't heard in a while but you're talking about us being a definite minority in these shows. the Bon Jovi shows mostly consist of people who are seeing them only once on that tour and they come to hear the staple favorites. If you listen to the bootlegs of past tours you can see that the band always does a healthy mix of material from the new albums.
So, if you're bitter about their live performance, don't spend your money on the show. Just don't try to convince the rest of us that we shouldn't be having a good time at the Jovi shows.
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don't try convincing us that all is rosy
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When you take into account that songs like Bad name, bad Rx, prayer, IML, Wanted HAVE to be played, that doesn't leave the band with much options
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why do they HAVE to be played...
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Its almost like a true football fan can appreciate a 0-0 tie as opposed to a crappy game with lots of goals.
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would you not rather see a great game full of excitement that ends 5-4 ? why does a game with lots of goals have to be crappy to unpick your metaphor?
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Sure, I miss the excitement of hearing something that I haven't heard in a while but you're talking about us being a definite minority in these shows
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I'd say yes minority in terms of the whole spectrum of fans - but most fans only know the recent stuff who attend the shows at the moment so it doesn't make a difference to them if the band plays raise your hands or if they alternate it with homebound train, let it rock... etc...
in terms of on this board: i'd say it's roughly 50/50 - and most people are very disappointed with the US sets compared to the last few Japanese shows...
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If you listen to the bootlegs of past tours you can see that the band always does a healthy mix of material from the new albums.
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I've got loads of them, and i attended a few of the shows... they choose the wrong songs to play... songs which weren't singles or successful are played rather than the better more staple-BJ songs...
Enjoy the show bonjovi#1!! bare in mind i will still enjoy the shows - my point is the lack of anything adventurous or new in the shows... they are a band that has spanned 20 years and despite the fact it is now 2003 they were more successful and respected/renowned in the 80s than now... and they should at least proportionally represent the earlier phases of their carreer...
also songs such as bad medicine, bad name, prayer should be called something like bad name '95, or prayer '95, or bad medicine '93 because they took on a different identity in the 90s which often doesn't resemble the 80s anyway...
in terms of playing songs off crossroads... don't forget in and out of love was on that too as well as electric never say goodbye etc...