Keep The Faith.

Perhaps Iceman, but then again some people just wanna bash the band without hearing the album and make up their mind before its released in the hope that if they bash what everyone else thinks is great they can take some sort of high intellectual ground.

Unless of course telepathy is an ability they have listed on their cv's.

Ugh. You just said that you thought Bounce was great when it was released and you've now come to realize that it's not that good. There are people who saw and heard that right away.

So, is it because they want to "bash" the album or because they can put even a new release in the context of previous albums?

How does this relate to any of the discussion above?

Ice

I Believe/HAND - HAND. HAND is the best track from the new album. I believe is good but I like HAND much better.
KTF/I Wanna Be Loved - KTF smokes this sorry excuse for a song.
Sleep/Welcome - I'm sick of Sleep live but Welcome is atrocious, so Sleep.
In These Arms/Who Says - In These Arms is one of the greatest Bon Jovi tunes ever. I love Who Says (2nd favorite track in HAND) but In These Arms, I LOVE THAT TUNE. One of BJ's best. In These Arms/LOAP medley = heaven.
Bed Of Roses/LMS - Bed Of Roses. This arrangement of LMS in HAND is good but the vocal melody should've been reworked. Plus LMS has one of the lamest lyrics (digital download WTF?)
Mother/Bells - Mother. BOF sucks ass.
Dry County/Wildflower - Dry County
Woman In Love/One Last Cigarette - Tie, they are both good to me.
Fear/I Am - Fear
I Want You/Complicated - I Want You.
Blame/Novocaine - Novocaine
Soul/Story - Soul

KTF >>>>>>>>>> HAND

Iceman,

I meant, and I'm surprised that you couldnt understand, that some people are determined not to like the album before they hear it and its obvious from their posts that this is the case. I have no problem with someone saying "I've heard Bounce and I think its shit because.....". However I do have a problem with people saying "I'd bet HAND will be shit because everything since 2000 has been shit". That was my point.

I should have used the words psychic abilities rather than telepathy. My sincerest apologies.

I Believe/HAND - tie. HAND has the better melody, I Believe has the better feeling
Faith/I Wanna Be Loved - Faith
Sleep/Welcome - Welcome, but both are not among my favourites
In These Arms/Who Says - In These Arms
Bed Of Roses/LMS - LMS
Mother/Bells - Mother by far
Dry County/Wildflower - Dry County
Woman In Love/OLC - Woman In Love
Fear/I Am - I Am
I Want You/Complicated - Complicated
Blame It/Novocaine - Novocaine
LBOS/Story - tie

I Believe/HAND = I Believe
KTF I Want To Be Loved = KTF (No contest)
Sleep/Welcome = Welcome
In These Arms/Who Says = In These Arms (again no contest)
Bed Of Roses/Last Man Standing = Bed Of Roses (no contest)
IIWYM/Bells = Bells Of Freedom (IIWYM majorly sucks, totally unconvincing metal song with crap sounding solo)
Dry County/Wildflower = Dry County (I like Wildflower but no contest)
Woman In Love/Last Cigarette = Last Cigarette
Fear/I Am = Fear
I Want You/Complicated = Complicated
Blame/Novocaine = Blame
Soul/Story = Story (Probably, I haven't heard KTF for a while)
Save A Prayer/Dirty = Save A Prayer

That's 8/5 and lets face it KTF has at least 5 all time classic Bon Jovi songs, HAND doesn't.

Are you serious? It's one of my favourites from Faith.

Wow this could be really hard. Lets see...

I Believe/HAND - Almost a tie, both very good, but HAND in 5.1 is bliss. HAND
KTF/IWBL - Faith, but IWBL should own live as well. FAITH
ISWID/Welcome - The feel *thats right Iceman* is awesome in Sleep. FAITH
ITA/WSYCGH - In these arms, but I think Who says may be a classic. FAITH
BOR/LMS - Last Man Standing by miles. HAND
IIWYM/BOF - Mother wins, great song, even with the meh lyrics. FAITH
DC/WF - Dry County by miles. FAITH
WIL/OLC - OLC, just like it better. HAND
Fear/I Am - this is the hardest one, both original and powerful, but I Am has a personal connection, so it wins. HAND
IWY/Complicated - Complicated b/c I despise IWY. HAND
Blame/Novocaine - Novocaine by miles. HAND
LBOS/Story - Little bit of Soul owns. FAITH

Split down the middle, not too surprising as HAND and Faith are both in my three favorites.

I'll second that.

I was listening to KTF in the car the other day and I really had to think about how awesome this album actually is. It's got a lot of great tunes and quite a few memorable guitar solos. How in the world can KTF be better than HAND? I don't understand how some view HAND that way. There should be no comparison because as soon as KTF came out... It was an instand classic... HAND is just a follow up to the Crush and Bounce phases. Nothing special in my opinion. A few great tunes and nonetheless.

Ryan