Kerry 's support

One thing to think about is that rich people create jobs. Should we tax these people more and have less jobs created?

Age is another thing. So you think as soon as you start earning, eg: When you have a huge student loan, struggling to find a place to live, no capital behind you etc.... You should pay the same rate as someone that has built up an ability to pay those taxes? And you must realise that if everyone starts earning over £35k (Which i think you're being very optimistic about in a year) who is going to do all the service jobs?? Nursing?? (They work BLOODY hard) etc....

But you are saying that during those years, they should be taxed a third of their money...!?!? Despite the fact that they are hardly earning any.

How is paying money that you don't need to make ends meet being punished?

You seriously think he would?? There isn't any doubt on the issue.

I could say the same about you. Your view is very simplistic.

No, rich people in that sort of position cut jobs to make their EPS higher so that they earn a far higher director renumeration. I.e. extortionate bonuses.

Have you spoken to all rich people and come up with this conclusion? For example, the relatives I speak about in the previous Moore thread. He has worked from the bottom, all the way up to a high level position, and he didn't even attend Uni!! It was just due to his talent and smart business decisions that he is considered "rich" in today's world. It has nothing to do with luck, but everything to do with intelligence and motivation.

& getting the right breaks. Also, its funny how most republicans discredit his opinion because of the fact he is rich. They suggest this wouldn't be the case without certain events happening.

I know I have worked as hard as any of these people, but will probably not make it out of being middle class. But at least I have the opportunity now of hanging onto a bit more cash before I break that barrier.

not at all. i start my job in september and it'll take roughly a year-18months to complete the required technical and practical training required to become a chartered accountant. from there, the salary range varies dependent upon which area of accounting you want to specialise in. i hope to be working in areas of corporate auditing and undertaking technical work which comes with a high salary.

why not? you seem to have an attitude akin to robin hood. why should the rich be robbed to feed the poor? everybody has to struggle at sometime; why should they then be punished when they've made it?

i disagree.

i just believe that people work hard to get where they are. why should they pay more to keep the layabouts on the dole?

Getting the right breaks? You "assume" to much. He was laid off last year, which I don't consider much of a break. He broke his arse interviewing for new positions. It was no break that he has another great paying job now. It was due to the fact that he is intelligent, well educated (as he decided to go back to school) and motivated. Why should he be penalized for that?

What r u chartering in?

Btw - I forgot what the higher bracket was. I believe it is now about £30,500. Also, I believe you need 3 years experience to become chartered in ACCA or CIMA.

You think that all of the money taken from the rich goes to feeding the poor? Have you not heard of the benefits system? There is a difference between struggling & not being able to live. It is about factoring your ability to pay.

Seriously? Father & Son both being president? How many companies has Bush been GIVEN and has run into the ground?

That is a different issue. The majority of taxes don't go towards welfare.

We are taxed through the eyeballs, & the rates are too high & the gap between middle & higer rate is too high. But I believe the concept is sound. I certainly know I'd be out on the street now if the rate was 28-30% probably higher. & I deserve to have a life for the work I have put in as much as anyone.

I thought you were talking about Moore.

Also, I am guessing this guy is middle class. I am talking about the Rich. I agree that the middle classes in this country & probably yours are being hammered. And how is he being penalized? The tax is still calculated on an ability to pay it. Why should people that bust their guts all their life as nurses be penalised by having to pay a higher tax rate - when they are in a job that doesn't allow massive salary increases?

Richie: I stand corrected, it is 18 months. Still, I am interested in what you are studying, as I am currently studying for CIMA. & if all goes well, should pass next May (which has taken me 2 years - with exemptions).

It's pretty obvious that this guy's wife is a huge Bon Jovi fan and he's jealous.

Hey, at least he's mentioning the band AND he knows the lyrics so, at some level, he's listened to the music a lot or he can't help himself for remembering the lyrics because they are that catchy.

Either way, the band wins.