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Old 06-01-2019, 07:39 PM
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So here we are again......

Moscow from last night:

https://youtu.be/O0JdZ3RJBzY

At 1:02:11 (https://youtu.be/O0JdZ3RJBzY?t=1h2m10s) during "Amen" JBJ steps away from the mic but I guess the playback still continues...
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Old 06-01-2019, 07:42 PM
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So here we are again......

Moscow from last night:

https://youtu.be/O0JdZ3RJBzY

At 1:02:11 (https://youtu.be/O0JdZ3RJBzY?t=1h2m10s) during "Amen" JBJ steps away from the mic but I guess the playback still continues...
Other than some reverb and ambient voice from standard backing tracks and the stadium, I don't hear anything out of order here.
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Old 06-03-2019, 04:15 AM
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I'm not saying it's playback and I'm not saying it's not but Amen is one of the songs on the setlist with a blackdot by it, the others are ones we know use tracks aren't they?
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I'm not saying it's playback and I'm not saying it's not but Amen is one of the songs on the setlist with a blackdot by it, the others are ones we know use tracks aren't they?
Yes, exactly. Since I saw that I've been quite sure Jon is getting "help" with those long notes in the chorus by pre-recorded vocals. He's not lip-synching but he's singing on top of another vocal. Since there's no backing vocals or effects needed to have pre-recorded for Amen it has to be the only logical reason for the black dot.
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I'm not saying it's playback and I'm not saying it's not but Amen is one of the songs on the setlist with a blackdot by it, the others are ones we know use tracks aren't they?

Those black dots on the set list means that they play to a click track and thus also a backing track. Those backing tracks have vocal snippets which Jon sings over just like LOAP and in this case Amen. Some tracks could also have some extra background vocals or instrument/effects. This is at least what I noticed from listening to In-Ear monitor recordings.
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I've been wondering what the dots mean for years, THANK YOU.
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Some time ago i saw this video and wondered if the chorus was playback.
It sounds different than the playback they normally used for the chorus but also the mics of david and Richie could be higher in the mix than normal and the playback could still be running.
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Ohh the Chicago 2000 promo show when the talk box crapped out.

Yeah I really think that's what it sounds like without the vocal tracks padding the mix. SUPER SUSPICIOUS that the video ends right before the key change.
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Some time ago i saw this video and wondered if the chorus was playback.
It sounds different than the playback they normally used for the chorus but also the mics of david and Richie could be higher in the mix than normal and the playback could still be running.
Any ideas?
Oh, this is one of my favourite performances of LOAP even though it's not complete. In the Chorus, there is still the playback track but David's and Richie's microphones are very high in the mix, that's why you can very clearly hear David singing the high notes in the chorus. I'm even a but frustrated that the key change is cut out, I would really like to hear David belt out those notes.
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See if you can find It's My Life from that show too. Exact same issue, really scrappy sounding background vocals.
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