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Old 06-09-2017, 01:55 AM
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I swear Jackie has a Richie magnet... 2 months without a single post and as soon as his name is mentioned, BANG

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Aww... Sounds like you missed me. But it really hasn't been that long.

I've said before that I post when I have something to say. I don't feel the need to weigh in on every discussion, whether I know anything about the subject or not. So I have nothing to contribute to soundboard discussions, I don't have any rare videos to trade, and I refuse to jump on the bandwagon trashing Jon's voice. And that's basically all that has been discussed since I last posted.

Well, that, and the speculation about whether the band is together to rehearse for the tour or getting ready to release a new album. I didn't really have anything to add to that, either. But if you insist, I personally think it's probably rehearsals. Since they had reportedly rehearsed 90 songs already, and we heard maybe a third of that, we know how much that means. So I couldn't get too excited about that one either.


Now, did you have something you wanted to contribute to the current discussion? Or were you just trying to derail it by taking shots at me?
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Old 06-09-2017, 02:06 AM
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The most and least listened to album threads were posted since you last posted and you didn't contribute to those discussions either. You had said if there was a topic other than Richie, you could contribute to a different discussion. So I started a simple, non controversial one, and nothing from you. It really does seem the only reason you come here is to talk about Richie.
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Old 06-09-2017, 05:06 AM
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The most and least listened to album threads were posted since you last posted and you didn't contribute to those discussions either. You had said if there was a topic other than Richie, you could contribute to a different discussion. So I started a simple, non controversial one, and nothing from you. It really does seem the only reason you come here is to talk about Richie.
If you started that thread as a test of some kind, then I guess I failed it. Next time give me a heads-up and I'll study harder.

I didn't post on your thread because I don't have a most or least listened to album. I don't respond to most polls for a similar reason. My favorites change from one minute to the next and I might listen to the same album for days on end and not listen to it again for months.

And for the record, my posts on this thread weren't about Richie. They were about why the solo songs were included on the WAN deluxe edition when solos hadn't been included before. So I suggested a possible reason why they were included and then followed up with questions I had about Matt's theory, which grew out of that discussion. The only reason Richie's name came up was because one of the songs was his.
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Old 06-09-2017, 05:25 AM
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Please don't misunderstand. I started the thread for the board in general, something positive to talk about. I just thought it odd that you had noted nothing else you could comment on but didn't comment on this simple question. The question was not what were your favorites, just what you had listened to most through the years. As my initial post demonstrated, what stage of life we were in during different releases could affect listening habits at the time.
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Old 06-09-2017, 06:21 AM
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Please don't misunderstand. I started the thread for the board in general, something positive to talk about. I just thought it odd that you had noted nothing else you could comment on but didn't comment on this simple question. The question was not what were your favorites, just what you had listened to most through the years. As my initial post demonstrated, what stage of life we were in during different releases could affect listening habits at the time.
And I repeat, I don't have an album that I listen to most or least. It has nothing to do with what stage I'm in. It's more about what I'm in the mood for, so there was no answer. I know it wasn't about "favorites". That had more to do with my comment about not responding to polls, than your thread. I understood the question. I just didn't have an answer. So I didn't post.

(And even if I had, suppose my answer had been SITT, which I was listening to about as much as I listening to the box set at the time, iirc. I probably would have been accused of trying to make THAT thread about Richie. So I would have failed the test anyway, because ppl see what they want to see.)

At any rate, I'm done justifying. I don't see why I should have to.

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Old 06-09-2017, 06:28 AM
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And I repeat, I don't have an album that I listen to most or least. It has nothing to do with what stage I'm in. It's more about what I'm in the mood for, so there was no answer. I know it wasn't about "favorites". That had more to do with my comment about not responding to polls, than your thread. I understood the question. I just didn't have an answer. So I didn't post.



(And even if I had, suppose my answer had been SITT, which I was listening to about as much as I listening to the box set at the time, iirc. I probably would have been accused of trying to make THAT thread about Richie. So I would have failed the test anyway, because ppl see what they want to see.)



At any rate, I'm done justifying. I don't see why I should have to.



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If you don't feel like you have to justify then please just don't do it. Thank you.


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Old 06-09-2017, 09:51 AM
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And I repeat, I don't have an album that I listen to most or least. It has nothing to do with what stage I'm in. It's more about what I'm in the mood for, so there was no answer. I know it wasn't about "favorites". That had more to do with my comment about not responding to polls, than your thread. I understood the question. I just didn't have an answer. So I didn't post.

(And even if I had, suppose my answer had been SITT, which I was listening to about as much as I listening to the box set at the time, iirc. I probably would have been accused of trying to make THAT thread about Richie. So I would have failed the test anyway, because ppl see what they want to see.)

At any rate, I'm done justifying. I don't see why I should have to.

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No, you don't have to justify anything. But I think you actually didn't understand the question this time. It's about what albums you have listened to the most or least since you know the band, not currently or last week.

For me, that's during the last 24, almost 25 years. And, while hard to choose, there are some choices, even for me, who almost always only listens to the latest album until another one comes around. And I mean like only that album, no other music, neither from Bon Jovi or other bands (except on the occasional 5 minutes of radio I listen to per week)
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Old 06-09-2017, 04:33 PM
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I can see what you're saying; but I'm not sure why that would be the reason the songs weren't done. Lack of fan excitement hasn't stopped Jon from repeatedly doing songs he wants to do, regardless of how the fans respond.

The other thing that bugs me about that theory, if I understand it correctly, is that you're saying you think Jon didn't include the solo songs in the set because the people hadn't responded well to Richie doing solos (or Jon giving up the mic) in the past. So if Jon already knew that would be an issue, why would he make a point of saying in an interview that they were going to do solo stuff? Seems like he would have responded differently if that had been something that concerned him.

And according to one of the interviews Richie did, about signing with Dangerbird, Jon had apparently told Richie he would have the chance to sing some of his own songs on the BWC tour:



http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ear...lowdown-370991

Both of those interviews took place well after the previous tours you mentioned, and it didn't seem to be a problem then.
True enough, my theory could be full of holes. Him singing songs that people don't care for still gets less of a pee break than someone else entirely singing. I've seen it happen at shows and I'm not slamming Richie. A lot of band's casual fans use those moments to grab a drink. They do it for album tracks too but less so when the singer is still singing. To be honest I'm not sure why Jon said that in interviews.

Maybe it was planned later in the tour and he was going to do a different bigger hit. Maybe he thought the album would have been received better. Keep in mind that leg of the tour had the band doing 6 or 7 songs off an album no one had heard yet and I think it wound up backfiring a little, are they really going to give an extra slot to someone else singing a song no one ones? That's a lot of lulls in one show.
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Old 06-10-2017, 01:49 AM
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...But I think you actually didn't understand the question this time. It's about what albums you have listened to the most or least since you know the band, not currently or last week...
I understood the question the same way you did; but here's the thing. I have a chronological playlist that includes the songs/albums in the order they were released. That is what I typically play when I listen to BJ at home; and it plays straight through from one album to the next. In my car I usually play mixes I've created with songs from various albums or I'll occasionally pull a random handful of CDs that I'm in the mood for; but no single CD more than any other.

I don't prefer one album, as a whole, over any of the others. They all sound like Bon Jovi to me, and so I've never really thought "this album is great and that album sucks". The same is true for the solo albums. While SITT is probably one of my all-time favorite albums, I don't really listen to it any more than I do any of the others; I just like those songs better when they come up on my playlist.

I started following BJ after WSYCGH started playing on CMT; and probably within a year, I owned their entire catalog up to that point. Then I got the later albums as they were released. So I haven't really owned any of the albums longer than the others, if you don't consider that some have just been available longer. I guess, in that respect, I've heard the earlier releases more often, but not as a conscious decision. I wore out each new album when I bought it - whether it was a new release or just new to me - until I was familiar with the songs and the lyrics, then it became a part of the playlists and mixes I'd already created, and started taking its turn in the rotation.

So, the fact is, I really don't listen to any three albums more (or less) than the others; and I haven't done that since I started following the band.
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Old 06-10-2017, 02:01 AM
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True enough, my theory could be full of holes. Him singing songs that people don't care for still gets less of a pee break than someone else entirely singing. I've seen it happen at shows and I'm not slamming Richie. A lot of band's casual fans use those moments to grab a drink. They do it for album tracks too but less so when the singer is still singing. To be honest I'm not sure why Jon said that in interviews.

Maybe it was planned later in the tour and he was going to do a different bigger hit. Maybe he thought the album would have been received better. Keep in mind that leg of the tour had the band doing 6 or 7 songs off an album no one had heard yet and I think it wound up backfiring a little, are they really going to give an extra slot to someone else singing a song no one ones? That's a lot of lulls in one show.
Sorry, I didn't mean for it to sound like I was trying to blow holes in your theory. That wasn't why I asked. And contrary to popular opinion, it wasn't even as much about why Richie didn't sing his songs as it was about why neither of them did. It just seems to me that, based on the interviews, Jon intended to do that and that might explain why the solo songs were included in the deluxe editions.

Your 'maybes' make sense though, so the idea could have been scrapped for any of those reasons.
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