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Old 06-07-2017, 06:01 PM
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I love Every Road, and would take Aftermath over WAN any day, but I think it was an odd choice to include it, even though it's only on the deluxe edition. It really doesn't fit with the rest of the record. I must say, it's inclusion did begin to set off alarm bells in my head. There must of been some discussion somewhere about having that song included...I always thought it must have been some condition that Richie had in exchange for something to have it included. I guess we'll never know. All just speculation on my part of course.
Yeah, like having zero solos on the album :3 jk
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Old 06-07-2017, 08:21 PM
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Nah, just kidding.
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I love Every Road, and would take Aftermath over WAN any day, but I think it was an odd choice to include it, even though it's only on the deluxe edition. It really doesn't fit with the rest of the record. I must say, it's inclusion did begin to set off alarm bells in my head. There must of been some discussion somewhere about having that song included...I always thought it must have been some condition that Richie had in exchange for something to have it included. I guess we'll never know. All just speculation on my part of course.
In an interview Jon did before the BWC tour, he was talking about writing for Stand Up Guys and he said that both he and Richie were going to do some of their solo stuff on the tour. IIRC, he specifically referenced Stand Up Guys and AOTL. I thought maybe that's why he included them on the deluxe editions - so some of the fans would be familiar with them.

That's the only reason I could think of to explain why solo songs were included. But it's just a guess.
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Old 06-08-2017, 12:38 PM
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Not looking for a scandal, just sharing my thoughts at the time. It was odd to include a track from one of Richie's albums. At least the Jon tracks were not already on albums.

I think the explanation about Solos stuff being planned for the tour is a good one, but that didn't happen on any of the show before Richie went AWOL
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The previous tour had him doing Homebound Train and when that didn't keep the crowd occupied it was switched to Lay Your Hands On Me and even that still got pee breaks. I don't think it's about quality of songs, the second the singer says "I'm going to hand the mic over to..." it's a concert break for a lot of people. I'd rather Richie sing a solo song or something obscure but I agree with the decision, if there was one, for him not to sing Every Road for the sake of the crowd lull but I'd prefer it personally.
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Richie singing I'll be there for you is pure BLISS and if someone takes a piss break, then be it. I couldn't care less.
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Richie singing I'll be there for you is pure BLISS and if someone takes a piss break, then be it. I couldn't care less.
Which is why they gave him one of the BIGGEST hits. Giving him a Bon Jovi album cut is rough, giving him a solo song people won't know is suicide.
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The previous tour had him doing Homebound Train and when that didn't keep the crowd occupied it was switched to Lay Your Hands On Me and even that still got pee breaks. I don't think it's about quality of songs, the second the singer says "I'm going to hand the mic over to..." it's a concert break for a lot of people. I'd rather Richie sing a solo song or something obscure but I agree with the decision, if there was one, for him not to sing Every Road for the sake of the crowd lull but I'd prefer it personally.
I can see what you're saying; but I'm not sure why that would be the reason the songs weren't done. Lack of fan excitement hasn't stopped Jon from repeatedly doing songs he wants to do, regardless of how the fans respond.

The other thing that bugs me about that theory, if I understand it correctly, is that you're saying you think Jon didn't include the solo songs in the set because the people hadn't responded well to Richie doing solos (or Jon giving up the mic) in the past. So if Jon already knew that would be an issue, why would he make a point of saying in an interview that they were going to do solo stuff? Seems like he would have responded differently if that had been something that concerned him.

And according to one of the interviews Richie did, about signing with Dangerbird, Jon had apparently told Richie he would have the chance to sing some of his own songs on the BWC tour:

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The music business is changing so rapidly nowadays as far as the way records are being heard, marketed and sold,” [Sambora] tells The Hollywood Reporter. “These larger companies don’t have the flexibility to move along with that. The independent structure has a lot more flexibility and a lot more freedom. I think that’s why I moved towards that.”

He adds that bandleader Jon Bon Jovi is extremely supportive of the project.

“I’m going to go play these songs live when the band goes out on tour [in the spring]," Sambora says. "Jon’s going to let me play a couple of songs, so I am going to continue promoting this record even when I’m out on the road with the band."
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ear...lowdown-370991

Both of those interviews took place well after the previous tours you mentioned, and it didn't seem to be a problem then.
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I swear Jackie has a Richie magnet... 2 months without a single post and as soon as his name is mentioned, BANG

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