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Old 03-22-2019, 02:24 PM
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It's Only Rock and Roll was definitely a bside to one of the KTF Singles. I believe it was Dry County.

I could also see Jon saying in an interview that Miracle was more of a Bon Jovi song and could have made KTF...

I have a feeling some things might have just been mistranslated in that article.

Jon had an overabundance amount of material for KTF so I don't believe there was a shortage and scramble for recycled material...

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I agree with you on most points here and I don't think there was a shortage of material either, but we know that they at least dug back to some NJ tracks by bringing Diamond Ring and Let's Make It Baby into the sessions for KTF. However, I also don't think that much more of the older material was revisited for the album.

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I agree with you on most points here and I don't think there was a shortage of material either, but we know that they at least dug back to some NJ tracks by bringing Diamond Ring and Let's Make It Baby into the sessions for KTF. However, I also don't think that much more of the older material was revisited for the album.
Off topic but I know Jon stated that Diamond Ring confined to get reworked but if you listen to all the live '91 versions, it almost identical to what ended up on These Days...

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Well. I was checking and it's a bad transcript from an interview from VH1 Japan 1993... The songs are twisted... The questions are wrong... The songs they talk are Blame it on the love, dry county, in these arms and the ktf process... He talks about the young guns 2 process and says that Miracle was on the list, but they didn't recorded... He says that he won't mix his solo career with the band and about the Bon Jovi upcoming album for 1994. I got that article in Japanese if you want it. Sorry for all
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Well. I was checking and it's a bad transcript from an interview from VH1 Japan 1993... The songs are twisted... The questions are wrong... The songs they talk are Blame it on the love, dry county, in these arms and the ktf process... He talks about the young guns 2 process and says that Miracle was on the list, but they didn't recorded... He says that he won't mix his solo career with the band and about the Bon Jovi upcoming album for 1994. I got that article in Japanese if you want it. Sorry for all
No problem and thanks for clearing it up. At least it spawned some interesting discussion.

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Off topic but I know Jon stated that Diamond Ring confined to get reworked but if you listen to all the live '91 versions, it almost identical to what ended up on These Days...

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Yeah, I think at some point they wanted to take it further than what the song was. We do have the (slightly heavier on instruments and darker) 1988 demo and we have live performances from 1988, 1991 and 1994. All not too different from each other. The only thing that was added at some later point was the bridge "you know you know I bleed every night you sleep 'cause I don't know if I'm in your dreams". That could first be heard in the 1994 radio performance so we'd have to wild-guess if it was added during the KTF or TD era. Maybe Yovana can confirm that if it's on the demo tapes from 1992?

I remember Jon saying about the song in 1995 that they tried so much on it and then went back to the stripped-down version with just a live vocal and no overdubs and it worked.
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No problem and thanks for clearing it up. At least it spawned some interesting discussion.



Yeah, I think at some point they wanted to take it further than what the song was. We do have the (slightly heavier on instruments and darker) 1988 demo and we have live performances from 1988, 1991 and 1994. All not too different from each other. The only thing that was added at some later point was the bridge "you know you know I bleed every night you sleep 'cause I don't know if I'm in your dreams". That could first be heard in the 1994 radio performance so we'd have to wild-guess if it was added during the KTF or TD era. Maybe Yovana can confirm that if it's on the demo tapes from 1992?

I remember Jon saying about the song in 1995 that they tried so much on it and then went back to the stripped-down version with just a live vocal and no overdubs and it worked.
As far as I could get from my tranlator, they did tried to record some "un-used" From the New Jersey/Young Guns II records they mention Love Hurts but as one of those songs that he loved but didn't make the record
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Off topic but I know Jon stated that Diamond Ring confined to get reworked but if you listen to all the live '91 versions, it almost identical to what ended up on These Days...

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Maybe Yovana can confirm that if it's on the demo tapes from 1992?
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btw 9Songs4U, before giving horribly wrong information think again sister!!!
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Wow, thanks a lot for this! I never would've guessed that they took the instrumentation that much further when recording it for Keep The Faith.
In that context, Jon's comment about the song makes even more sense.
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that's very cool. If I Was Your Mother vibe.
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9Songs4U, before giving horribly wrong information think again sister!!!
Ease off!!...it was clearly something that got lost in the translation somewhere. God knows that you of all people should understand that.

The way you and RD talk to people at times is asolutely disrepectful. No wonder hardly anyone comes here now....
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btw 9Songs4U, before giving horribly wrong information think again sister!!!
Hahaha you are the best 😁

What happened is that when you translate things to Japanese or from Japanese, you need to be careful because there are tins of words that doesn't exist on the language. I wanna be your fan, where do I subscribe?

And wow... What a sound... Could you share it please? It's for knowledge use hahaha
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