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Old 03-18-2014, 11:02 PM
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Hi. I think RICHIE is a great guy. And it's true the concert are not the same if he is not there. I have been bon jovi fan since 2000,. I know jon is the leader, he is the head of the band. but richie is part of the body.
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Old 03-19-2014, 03:50 AM
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Three things…

Jon’s hair – he clearly wants to be a political mover and shaker in some shape or form but this isn’t why he’s not reaching for the Just For Men. Even if he announces he’s running for Gov’ in the next elections, this won’t prove that theory. He’s off tour, he’s relaxing and he’s not thinking about it. All the things I’ve said about Jon in the past, one thing I will admit – he stays in shape and keeps a certain look about him because he sees it as part of his job but he likes what he likes and as much as he chases fads with his music, he doesn’t do it with his image. He is pure ‘Dad rock’ and he doesn’t give a sh*t. He is going to chase his political dream whether his hair is blonde, grey or frikkin’ ginger.

On the ‘Richie is SUCH a b$tch, he has no class’ front – RS is clearly frustrated with how he has been treated. He is a man scorned and he is biting back here and there in interviews. I won’t judge him as I have no idea what his beef with Jon is. However, I can imagine that for someone who took so much pride in a band he helped build, who spoke in the past with such devotion to it and how great it was; that he is being very careful NOT to libel himself by coming out and saying what happened behind closed doors but he’s also being foolish talking about it at all. From the people I know who have met these guys, Richie is not a bad guy, he’s a simple fella. Not speaking in terms of the tour or his wanting to be with his daughter but more about the friendship these guys had - for him to be saying what he’s saying and for him to have given up what he gave up, he’s hurt that whatever it was wasn’t resolved between them and that Jon didn’t want to resolve it when he had the chance – instead choosing to say ‘we’ve been here before’ and ‘It’s not like if U2 didn’t have The Edge’ – now Jon, ever the businessman, was in the middle of a tour and his guitarist left him, so he was acting on that. But he’s admitted since, that the tour and album were rushed.

The conclusion on this is; it’s a f**kin’ mess. The band are now mediocre at best, without a decent album in over ten years and now they aren’t even a good live act. So, as many have said previously, maybe this is the kick in the arse they needed. Let’s wait and see.

Thirdly – Richie probably isn’t drunk. Don’t discount the fact that he’s always been a juvenile imbecile who can barely string a sentence together. It’s just that when this band was good, when he was young and in shape and he was sitting next to Jon and making him laugh, you all loved him for it. Now he’s older and looks like a hobo, you all think he’s weird. So he’s older, so he looks like his mother with a beard… who cares. If you believe the press, he spent the entire 80s high on coke and no one batted an eyelid. Everyone just wants to point out what a liability he must be so they can say ‘look at what he put Jon through… what a b*stard!’

They did this to themselves and they are both douchebags. When they realise that, they’ll come back. Let’s hope they do it properly.
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Ah JB... in another time, another place...



... I would have still been fat and old
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Old 03-20-2014, 04:16 AM
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I always found it interesting that Jon keeps talking about giving Runaway to the "loneliest person in the music business. It's quite an innovative idea, but it wasn't his. It was the assistant engineer's from The Powerstation named Ray Willard:

"I heard of this contest out in Long Island for WAPP called Rock to Riches, so I called them up, got all the information, and went out to meet the people. There was a person in charge of promotion by the name of John, and Chip Hobart was working there. I submitted Jon's tape along with one by another band by the name of Monomania to the contest. It was a good thing because it wasn't like I went there with one thing. I was pushing both. We started going out there every week visiting these people, developing a relationship with them, hanging out, letting them know we wanted them to help us. We were saying 'WAPP and Jon Bon Jovi. Let's have WAPP break Jon Bon Jovi.' We were giving the station the grip in the marketplace to say 'We found this artist.' And we were giving Jon the chance to get a station that would play his record without a record deal."

(Published in "Bon Jovi by Ramona Jan. 1988. Pages 45-47)
I thought this was quite the interesting read. Not having followed them back in the day it's always a little confusing, but very interesting, when I read or hear things that raise questions about the "myths" that surround how the band got started.

One that's puzzled me from day one is the "I'm your new guitarist" story and the "Shooting Star" story they tell about how Richie would always play it whenever Jon would come into a bar where Richie was playing. If I understand the "new guitarist" story correctly it sounds as if that's the first time either knew of the other's existence; and Richie started playing with Jon almost immediately thereafter (relatively speaking). So when exactly was it that Jon was supposed to to go to bars where Richie was playing with his pickup bands?

I also read where someone was talking about pre-Jovi days and he said that one of the incarnations of Jon's bands opened for Message when Al and Richie played with them. I read yet another article the other day that said it was after Richie started playing with the band that they started "gigging in earnest around NYC" and that's when they were spotted by Derek Shulman (?) and signed to Polygram with the anglicized name Bon Jovi (at Derek's suggestion).

Can anyone shed some light on the apparent inconsistencies?
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Old 03-20-2014, 04:24 AM
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Ah JB... in another time, another place...



... I would have still been fat and old
And married... don't forget married!!! LOL

Not to worry, Beaky, fat and old happens to the best of us... At least in this time and place, or any other, it looks like we still have a sense of humor... odd as it may be at times!
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