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Old 03-16-2014, 03:48 PM
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Jon would have got more money from What About Now being a solo album, you twonk. Jon has proven twice that he can still have success as a solo artist. Richie will always be jealous of Jon and that is a fact.
Jon has made jealous comments about Richie, you know.
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A shoulder he broke after he "tripped" in the bathroom following rumours of him being drunk on stage. As a result of this broken shoulder, he drank more, showed up completely wasted on stage pretty much more drunk than sober, making the HAND tour the actual first tour where Jon couldn't count on Richie being all there.

Say what you want about Jon, but in the end he always shows up. I'm not saying he's not doing it for money and he might be on auto pilot on 85% of the tour, but he's there. Once Richie has a few problems every other person needs to deal with in his life, he resorts to alcohol, drugs or just walks away. He's turned into a spineless creature too afraid to actually face what his blue collared fans deal with on a daily basis.

The Richie Sambora Rolo and a few other fans on this board keep going on about has been missing in action for pretty much a decade now, and if anything this last solo tour of his that's "all about the music" is a perfect indication how out of touch Richie is with music. It's bland pub rock at best, but then again, that's probably why he's been playing pubs as well.

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Jon has made jealous comments about Richie, you know.
please, present these to me and I will humbly retract that statement
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The "Runaway" thing was interesting.

At first I didn't think anything of it. Runaway is the most well know song from the first two albums so I thought he was just picking that song to make the story understandable to the interviewer and listeners. But then one we started ripping on the chorus and finally stating that the other version was written better, than was a clear FU to Jon.

"Runaway" is obviously Jon's first born and the obvious reason for the start of Bon Jovi's success. Jon loves telling the DJ story etc. There was no reason to go there. The only thing similar the other song has is its title. It's not even remotely close in similarities. If Jon said in an interview that he hated playing "Stanger" that would almost be the same thing.

I'm starting to wonder if Richie is ever going back. He's made more jabs towards the band then he has ever made in 30 years. He's actually making fun of Bon Jovi the way an anti-bon jovi person would. He's going after their sound and corny lyrics. Not Good!!!!

I think he's pissed that the Band didn't suffer without him and even more pissed that he's not had the success that he though he should have.

I think time could heal this but it's not going to be anytime soon. I'd say at least 3 years.... Richie needs to get a lot out of his system first.

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And what he does in his own free time and how he has his hair should not be scrutinised.
If we analyze the pics of Richie,why we can not do it with Jon?
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If we analyze the pics of Richie,why we can not do it with Jon?
because people are making assumptions that Jon is going to be some pompous politician because he's gone grey. Yet all I was doing was saying that Richie looks like Fat Axel Rose
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please, present these to me and I will humbly retract that statement
From Mick Wall's interview in Kerrang, 1990: "Everyone gives Rich a lot of attention but I don't think it's fair to harp on about him all the time because it was us and the band."

And that's just one off the top of my head..
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From Mick Wall's interview in Kerrang, 1990: "Everyone gives Rich a lot of attention but I don't think it's fair to harp on about him all the time because it was us and the band."

And that's just one off the top of my head..
Could you please go back in time a littl further? I don't think you're going back far enough to demonstrate how evil and jealous Jon acted over this.

Seriously, you're bringing up an example from 1990, a completely different time for everyone in the band. Can you imagine your friend divorcing and you bringing up something they said 20 years ago to illustrate your point?

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Old 03-16-2014, 04:13 PM
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The "Runaway" thing was interesting.

At first I didn't think anything of it. Runaway is the most well know song from the first two albums so I thought he was just picking that song to make the story understandable to the interviewer and listeners. But then one we started ripping on the chorus and finally stating that the other version was written better, than was a clear FU to Jon.

"Runaway" is obviously Jon's first born and the obvious reason for the start of Bon Jovi's success. Jon loves telling the DJ story etc. There was no reason to go there. The only thing similar the other song has is its title. It's not even remotely close in similarities. If Jon said in an interview that he hated playing "Stanger" that would almost be the same thing.

I'm starting to wonder if Richie is ever going back. He's made more jabs towards the band then he has ever made in 30 years. He's actually making fun of Bon Jovi the way an anti-bon jovi person would. He's going after their sound and corny lyrics. Not Good!!!!

I think he's pissed that the Band didn't suffer without him and even more pissed that he's not had the success that he though he should have.

I think time could heal this but it's not going to be anytime soon. I'd say at least 3 years.... Richie needs to get a lot out of his system first.

This is so much fun!!!
I always found it interesting that Jon keeps talking about giving Runaway to the "loneliest person in the music business. It's quite an innovative idea, but it wasn't his. It was the assistant engineer's from The Powerstation named Ray Willard:

"I heard of this contest out in Long Island for WAPP called Rock to Riches, so I called them up, got all the information, and went out to meet the people. There was a person in charge of promotion by the name of John, and Chip Hobart was working there. I submitted Jon's tape along with one by another band by the name of Monomania to the contest. It was a good thing because it wasn't like I went there with one thing. I was pushing both. We started going out there every week visiting these people, developing a relationship with them, hanging out, letting them know we wanted them to help us. We were saying 'WAPP and Jon Bon Jovi. Let's have WAPP break Jon Bon Jovi.' We were giving the station the grip in the marketplace to say 'We found this artist.' And we were giving Jon the chance to get a station that would play his record without a record deal."

(Published in "Bon Jovi by Ramona Jan. 1988. Pages 45-47)

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Old 03-16-2014, 04:15 PM
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Could you please go back in time a littl further? I don't think you're going back far enough to demonstrate how evil and jealous Jon acted over this.

Seriously, you're bringing up an example from 1990, a completely different time for everyone in the band. Can you imagine your friend divorcing and you bringing up something they said 20 years ago to illustrate your point?

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I was asked to give an example and I did. Also, I think this is a similar situation to 1990. And it's also not my intent to paint Jon as evil, just human.
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