[bonjovi90]

Originally Posted by BJFan99

I actually think night #2 felt less autopilot and more vibrant throughout the show, whereas night #3 only came to really shine after the PA incident. Jon’s energy on Medicine is furious, electric Saturday Night gets me every time (especially with Jon bringing out some nice rasp on the last chorus), and HAND + KTF are just awesome, with the latter again containing some good ad-libs and additional vocal tricks. And that encore... Jesus Christ.

Always and These Days back-to-back are both very impressive vocally, and Jon even goes for the last ”I LIKE the bed I’m sleeping in” on Older with rasp like he did in the early 2000s!

Sorry, that one’s a winner for me

I know that you love to judge shows by which notes Jon hit in 5 or 6 certain songs. However, I go by what feeling a concert gives off and there's more to it than Jon's vocals. That 3rd night, the band returned with the attitude they once had that made them big and had them break in Europe in 1993: "we're gonna win tonight against all odds!" The vibe of the entire band was so much different. I think I listened to night 1 of MSG like once, night 2 maybe two or three times and night 3 probably twenty or more times. That's down to feeling or not feeling something and not to key-line analysis. Same goes for Munich 2011 where people say "oh that must've been great!". The setlist was on paper, the show wasn't. But back to MSG - there were A LOT of people from JT at these shows and, ironically, they all came back after show #3 being totally stunned and saying that it knocked the first two shows right out of the water.
It's like comparing the Twickenham shows to, let's say Munich 2003 and Dusseldorf 2006. The band's playing and Jon's vocals were miles better in Twickenham, actually almost perfect, however, I'd take a few bum notes or not pitch-perfect lines of the other two nights over it any day. Simply because you felt the band had an urge and desire to perform and Jon wasn't thinking about business while phoning the concert in.

[bonjovi90]

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[Nige]

Originally Posted by Alphavictim

Also, there certainly ARE bands where having a "strict leader" helped their career. Frank Zappa comes to mind. And who was the guy who had every band member PAY per mistake he caught? Was it Buddie Rich? I think it was some drummer guy. Or was it James Brown?

That was James Brown, but to his credit he did either distribute the funds from the fines between all the band at the end of each tour or give it to charity - can't specifically rememeber which one.

[Gregsynthbootlegs]

There is an objective and a subjective way to look at concert performances. Neither way is "wrong" per say, but it's two totally different ways of thinking about the same thing.

You also have to take into account the mediums being used and then compare it to being at the show itself. On audio recordings, you have the advantage of actually hearing the performances on stage much easier without being "lost" in the concert atmosphere. It makes it much easier to objectivity look at the vocals and the instrumentation going on. The biggest drawback from hearing shows (or watching them via video) is the fact that you aren't getting the full concert experience that way. When you are at the show, you get sucked into the atmosphere and it's much easier to feed off the energy of the band and the surrounding crowd. You also get to experience the full concert experience (pyro, lights, connection to the band, etc). That's something that is greatly reduced when you listen or watch a show from a bootleg or some other source. That is the biggest reason why you see such contrasting views from shows.

[powernoize]

MSG 1994
Toad The Wet Sprocket (with Jon Bon Jovi) - Rock n Roll All Nite (LIVE)

https://youtu.be/nHdfBH4QiR4

[bonjovi90]

When you have proper sources for Night 1 and 3 at Wembley Stadium, but Night 2 actually beat them by a landslide in terms of setlist, performance and Jon's voice. Well, it's our typical "Jovi luck" I'd say

‪Bon Jovi | 2nd Night at Wembley Stadium |...

Setlist:
01. Livin' On A Prayer [0:00]
02. You Give Love A Bad Name [5:26]
03. Wild In The Streets [9:07]
04. Keep The Faith [14:51]
05. Blood On Blood [22:26]
06. I Can't Help Falling In Love (acapella) [28:24]
07. Always [29:22]
08. I'd Die For You [36:52]
09. Blood Money [41:44]
10. Blaze Of Glory [43:54]
11. Runaway [49:31]
12. Dry County [54:28]
13. Lay Your Hands On Me [1:06:35]
14. (cut in) Jumpin' Jack Flash [1:16:23]
~ Papa Was A Rollin' Stone [1:17:00]
~ I'll Sleep When I'm Dead (reprise) [1:18:05]
15. Bad Medicine [1:20:46]
~ Shout [1:27:56]

Encore 1:
16. (cut in) Bed Of Roses [1:31:18]
17. Hey God [1:39:15]
18. Rockin' All Over The World (w/Steven Van Zandt) [1:47:06]

Encore 2:
19. I Believe [1:53:09]
20. I'll Be There For You [1:58:42]

Encore 3:
21. Acoustic Guitar Solo [2:07:50]
22. Wanted Dead Or Alive [2:11:59]
23. We're Havin' A Party [2:17:51]
24. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night (cut off/not recorded) (w/Steven Van Zandt) [2:19:47]
25. This Ain't A Love Song (not recorded)

[liljovi93]

Originally Posted by bonjovi90

When you have proper sources for Night 1 and 3 at Wembley Stadium, but Night 2 actually beat them by a landslide in terms of setlist, performance and Jon's voice. Well, it's our typical "Jovi luck" I'd say

Setlist:

01. Livin' On A Prayer [0:00]

02. You Give Love A Bad Name [5:26]

03. Wild In The Streets [9:07]

04. Keep The Faith [14:51]

05. Blood On Blood [22:26]

06. I Can't Help Falling In Love (acapella) [28:24]

07. Always [29:22]

08. I'd Die For You [36:52]

09. Blood Money [41:44]

10. Blaze Of Glory [43:54]

11. Runaway [49:31]

12. Dry County [54:28]

13. Lay Your Hands On Me [1:06:35]

14. (cut in) Jumpin' Jack Flash [1:16:23]

~ Papa Was A Rollin' Stone [1:17:00]

~ I'll Sleep When I'm Dead (reprise) [1:18:05]

15. Bad Medicine [1:20:46]

~ Shout [1:27:56]



Encore 1:

16. (cut in) Bed Of Roses [1:31:18]

17. Hey God [1:39:15]

18. Rockin' All Over The World (w/Steven Van Zandt) [1:47:06]



Encore 2:

19. I Believe [1:53:09]

20. I'll Be There For You [1:58:42]



Encore 3:

21. Acoustic Guitar Solo [2:07:50]

22. Wanted Dead Or Alive [2:11:59]

23. We're Havin' A Party [2:17:51]

24. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night (cut off/not recorded) (w/Steven Van Zandt) [2:19:47]

25. This Ain't A Love Song (not recorded)

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[Kathleen]

Originally Posted by liljovi93

I love you.

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Yes - me too

[bonjovi90]

Originally Posted by Kathleen

Yes - me too

Haha But, in contrast to the others, you've at least seen it around 10 years ago when I transferred the tapes

[Kathleen]

Originally Posted by bonjovi90

Haha But, in contrast to the others, you've at least seen it around 10 years ago when I transferred the tapes

And those DVDs are sitting on my desk right now waiting to be watched again.