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Old 02-06-2018, 12:28 AM
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Please, somebody, post some vids of Bon Jovi at their peak for the sake of my mental stability. I'm about to burst into tears once again...

PS. Dominik, don't you dare to pick on me and my thoughts about JBJ this time, or I'll come and force you to watch the Dusseldorf 2011 show five times in a row with no piss breaks in between! Actually, to make things worse, I'll put the video onto 0.25 speed on the last round and tie you to a kitchen chair, break your throne & cut your hair at the same time...
Haha I WAS in Dusseldorf and had to attend it live without taking a piss break. That was worse than re-watching it on DVD afterwards because the mood of us (Kathleen, her husband, Seb, Erik, Thierry etc.) went downhill with every butchered or boring song. I was truly embarassed back then because this had been the first European show for the members from USA/Canada and we had been talking it up so much, just get this snoozefest afterwards.

But back on the good days - my personal favourite Always performance from 2010:
He sings the song with such ease that it's just great!
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Old 02-06-2018, 12:37 AM
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Haha I WAS in Dusseldorf and had to attend it live without taking a piss break. That was worse than re-watching it on DVD afterwards because the mood of us (Kathleen, her husband, Seb, Erik, Thierry etc.) went downhill with every butchered or boring song. I was truly embarassed back then because this had been the first European show for the members from USA/Canada and we had been talking it up so much, just get this snoozefest afterwards.

But back on the good days - my personal favourite Always performance from 2010:
Bon Jovi - Always (London 2010) - YouTube
He sings the song with such ease that it's just great!
This one's my favorite - Boston 2010:

https://youtu.be/vf4DXrEpaNI

Jon gets more and more confident all the time and overall delivers one of his best post-2k vocal performances on any song, at least for me. His tone is really clear, pure and powerful, the high notes are seemingly effortless (considering it was '10) and he even takes the mic off the stand during the last chorus, so he really must have been feeling confident that day!

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Old 02-06-2018, 01:01 AM
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Bon Jovi - Living In Sin (Rotterdam 1989) - YouTube

Legendary performance and definitely the best of Living In Sin. Near the end on the high screams I think Jon goes even higher than the album version! Oh man, it's heartbeaking to see what he could to back then and to see now now he struggles on Who Says, Rollercoaster...
Love that long keyboard intro. I think the only did that in 1989/90 (NJ tour).

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Old 02-06-2018, 01:39 AM
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This one's my favorite - Boston 2010:

https://youtu.be/vf4DXrEpaNI

Jon gets more and more confident all the time and overall delivers one of his best post-2k vocal performances on any song, at least for me. His tone is really clear, pure and powerful, the high notes are seemingly effortless (considering it was '10) and he even takes the mic off the stand during the last chorus, so he really must have been feeling confident that day!

For me, this is Jon's best Always of the 21st Century. He's hitting the notes with ease, it's so good. Just compare this to Always from Greenville from last year and even though he still hits most of the notes, his voice is very weak and the overall tone is very bad.
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:14 AM
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I'm still trying figure out the ultimate goal here with everyone continuing to bash Jon's voice... I think we all get it at this point...

It's like everyone is trying to convince each other something we all already know and agree to...

It's like someone trying to convince someone that a piece of fruit is rotting from all different angles meanwhile we all know and see it... "the piece of fruit is rotting on the left side, no it's actually rotting on the inside, wait no, if you turn it this way it's really not as bad as it looks'

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Old 02-06-2018, 02:53 AM
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I'm still trying figure out the ultimate goal here with everyone continuing to bash Jon's voice... I think we all get it at this point...

It's like everyone is trying to convince each other something we all already know and agree to...

It's like someone trying to convince someone that a piece of fruit is rotting from all different angles meanwhile we all know and see it... "the piece of fruit is rotting on the left side, no it's actually rotting on the inside, wait no, if you turn it this way it's really not as bad as it looks'

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The same reason people are getting mad over not liking RSO though. Or any topic about a project they don't like.
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Old 02-06-2018, 05:17 AM
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The same reason people are getting mad over not liking RSO though. Or any topic about a project they don't like.
Not really... Jon's voice is shot... there is no grey area... I'm not talking about discussions on recent performances... I'm talking about these long winded posts that keep going round and round...it's not like the Flu where we'll wake up one day and Jon will be fixed...

Now with Richie and other topics there are current layers and elements... Some like it, some don't... or new EPs, etc...





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Deep inside, he's still that Jersey boy with dreams bigger than his hair (*insert an imaginary laugh track here*) to fulfill that he was back in 1982 when he first walked into that radio station outside the Long Island Expressway. There may not be much left of that guy for some - if not many - of you, but he's clearly still there, somewhere. You just have to look a little harder, a little deeper, a little longer.

I'm sorry for getting a bit poetic/author-like, but this is just how I feel about Jon.
Don't be silly, there's no passion in nowadays Bon Jovi performances. You're talking about a man who hurried recording an album and then did a tour just so he could buy his football team. Every once in a while he enjoys a show but everything else is done for money only. If he toured out of passion he'd play the rest of the world.

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This one's my favorite - Boston 2010:

https://youtu.be/vf4DXrEpaNI

Jon gets more and more confident all the time and overall delivers one of his best post-2k vocal performances on any song, at least for me. His tone is really clear, pure and powerful, the high notes are seemingly effortless (considering it was '10) and he even takes the mic off the stand during the last chorus, so he really must have been feeling confident that day!
That version of Always is good but pretty normal for 2010 standards. The best renditions since 1995 were done in Europe 2008, I think. But no, he's not taking a walk because of his confidence, he takes the mic from the stand because he's afraid the song will derail after the **** up and subsequently has to direct the band back into the the right gear.

That entire show was awful though. I'd just seen Bon Jovi play 2 shows in Toronto a week earlier and then went to see Boston which was a major letdown. Jon came up with some pointless banter about Boston while the crowd seemed to give zero ****s and the new material went over like lead balloon. It really made us cringe at how fake the entire thing was compared to what we'd seen before. For me, Boston 2010 was one of the worst Bon Jovi shows I'd ever seen and we left after Always was played.

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Old 02-06-2018, 09:05 AM
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Bon Jovi - Always (Philadelphia 2010) - YouTube

For me, this is Jon's best Always of the 21st Century. He's hitting the notes with ease, it's so good. Just compare this to Always from Greenville from last year and even though he still hits most of the notes, his voice is very weak and the overall tone is very bad.
I forgot about that performance! I agree - it's even better than Boston or London.
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Old 02-06-2018, 10:58 AM
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In this case, no one needs to tell the emperor anything, as he undoubtedly knows it all by himself. However, there's only so much (or little, in fact) that he can do about it, and that's why we're all so grateful for YouTube - after all, there you can always revisit pretty much any prime-era BJ concert you want (well, not literally any, but close enough). This one's currently my absolute favorite:

https://youtu.be/Dy9NODFkj9k

Bloody hell, the whole European leg of the KTF tour was magical. The guys were on f***ing fire in every single f***ing show! God, how I wish to have been around back then, so I would've been able to catch them up at their best live form...

EDIT: Prior to this date, I never noticed that Jon played his acoustic on BOR at the show I posted above! Does anybody here know if he did it somewhere else around that time as well?


I personally believe the KTF tour was their peak as a live band. I saw them at the Birmingham NEC then Milton Keynes Bowl on that tour and I’d put both shows above Wembley ‘95.

It’s all subjective of course. Wembley had a great set, was an iconic venue and was generally fantastic. But....the energy, enthusiasm and hunger on the KTF tour was unparalleled for me. Jon’s voice was magical, Richie was perfect.

I’ll never forget the thunderous bass kicking in on I Believe at the NEC. It literally rattled through me. They 100% played louder on that tour too. Amazing times.



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