[bonjovi90]

There's something about that Wanted performance that always gets me. Somehow the mixture of the old, aged recording and the screen footage including original video pieces make it special for me:

Bon Jovi - Wanted Dead Or Alive (Pittsburgh 1995)...

That show also had my 2nd favourite Always performance (right behind Milwaukee the same year):

Bon Jovi - Always (Pittsburgh 1995) - YouTube

[JackieBlue]

Originally Posted by bonjovi90

It was done until the end of 1995 in the way that Richie sat down on his chair and kept playing a longer intro. For the shows in 1996 all the long band intros were dropped due to the changes in the setlist structure (Wanted in the acoustic set, Lay Your Hands On Me being done with the marching band intro).
From 2000 onwards these long intros were basically dismissed in order to make room for more songs.

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Thanks for the information. The question occus to me every time I watch one of the old videos, but I never think to ask. Much appreciated!

[BJFan99]

God, I love the way Jon used to sing the second bridge of IBTFY back in 2010-11:

https://youtu.be/4MpJemd06EQ?t=3m21s

EDIT: He did it even better here - Charlotte '10 my arse, THIS is what I'm talking about:

https://youtu.be/o2hhP76RlKI?t=3m19s

Actually, I think that the later version as a whole was one of the best IBTFY performances of the tour. No, Jon doesn't do the ad-libs at the end of the song, but there's still some kind of magic that appeared quite rarely on these "mandatory" songs (except for KTF) even back then.

[Captain_jovi]

HOLY COW. I watch that Charlotte clip maybe once a month but that second one you posted is pretty frigging great.

[BJFan99]

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

HOLY COW. I watch that Charlotte clip maybe once a month but that second one you posted is pretty frigging great.

And yet even back then some members wished Jon's voice to have been better... I mean, wasn't THAT enough?

Christ, that one note alone puts the whole rendition into the category "Jon's best post-1996 vocal performances" without a doubt... it's THAT good. Actually, it's a pretty damn impressive moment for basically any male singer pushing 50 overall.

If Jon sounded like that in '18, I'd surely cream my pants - and shout it out loud! But I guess it's needless to say that he (and therefor I) won't. However, what a f***ing awesome moment.

(EDIT: Cut the word "probably" out of the statement about me creaming my pants if moments like that happened this year, and replaced it with the word "surely"... screw sensitivity of all kinds, I gotta be honest with these things here!)

[Captain_jovi]

Originally Posted by BJFan99

And yet even back then some members wished Jon's voice to have been better... I mean, wasn't THAT enough?

I don't think there was too many complaints about his voice that tour. I remember the board, while it has problems with the album, the tour was getting decent audibles and rarer songs, Jon's voice wasn't giving out as much. There were people griping but not like they are today at his voice, and rightfully so.

[jon-flp]

Originally Posted by BJFan99

Christ, that one note alone...

Talking about "one note alone", we already discovered who is the making the "one more silver dollar"? I remember a huge discussion back then here about it. For me it's clear Jon, and it's the most impressive "one note alone" in the 00's for me.

BON JOVI - Midnight Rider 2008 - Atlanta - YouTube

[BJFan99]

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

I don't think there was too many complaints about his voice that tour. I remember the board, while it has problems with the album, the tour was getting decent audibles and rarer songs, Jon's voice wasn't giving out as much. There were people griping but not like they are today at his voice, and rightfully so.

Back in August 2011 someone (can't remember who) started a thread called "Hopes/wishes for the next tour", and one of the replies - a longer list - had this as the first point:

* An improvement in Jon's voice.

Also, back in late '09 Seb said that Jon's vocals were mostly wank (he also said that The Circle was the first album where the production couldn't hide Jon's "shit voice"), and around the same time someone else started a thread called "It's time to tune down a whole step, Jon".

But you're right, his voice didn't get criticized nearly as much back then as it (rightfully, I'd admit - hell, I'm quite a critic about it myself as well) does nowadays.

[BJFan99]

Originally Posted by jon-flp

Talking about "one note alone", we already discovered who is the making the "one more silver dollar"? I remember a huge discussion back then here about it. For me it's clear Jon, and it's the most impressive "one note alone" in the 00's for me.

BON JOVI - Midnight Rider 2008 - Atlanta - YouTube

Nah, it's not THAT high. Actually, it's a pretty easy-sounding G#4 that I think he would have nailed nonetheless back then (remembering that the very highest note within his range on the LH and Circle tours was C5/C#5). The IBTFY note discussed before is way higher - am I right, is it a B4?

EDIT: Listen to this performance of These Days as a whole - Jon hits multiple seemingly effortless Bb4s and near the end even some powerful B4s with no obvious strain at any moment:

https://youtu.be/Za-lZf44Jms

Pretty incredible, isn't it (even considering the standards of that period)?

EDIT 2: What do you think about this mid-'13 version of the same song? Call me crazy, but I think it's almost as good... you can certainly tell from Jon's facial expressions that he's struggling quite a bit, but close your eyes and it's 2010 again:

https://youtu.be/VNtLjw1DKsM

PS. My prediction: Walleris quotes this post next and replies something along the lines of this...

"That really is a very good performance, but again, this was Jon pushing through on 120% effort and it did no good for his voice long-term, as you can even hear on later recordings from the same month already."

[Gregsynthbootlegs]

If Jon can get back to 2010 levels - I'd be satisfied.

That These Days performance posted above is pretty good. He puts a lot of effort into the performance and really tries his best. Intonation is mostly good as well (especially going for the higher notes Bb4/B4).