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Where the hell did this uploader find my karaoke performance from?
 https://youtu.be/SJff5NvkdpM It almost makes me - on this side of the computer screen - feel bad physically to see Jon shake the mic stand like that, trying to hit the notes. He literally looks (and actually sounds as well) like he's about to die at any moment... and this was back in November 2013, when his vocals were still a bit more consistent and kinda stronger/"punchier" (at some parts anyway) in general than they are now. What kinds of real-life nightmares are we going to see this year, with that whispery thing JBJ has as a voice nowadays? I have no idea, and "for some reason" I don't know if I even want to... Last edited by BJFan99; 02-13-2018 at 06:03 PM.. 
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And then, after that disaster, back to good Philly stuff - uh oh, it's 1993 again:
https://youtu.be/W7Au7YnBeek Again, truly an epic show. I wish that woman "singing" right next to the taper would shut up, though... PS. I'm currently really into the 2006 US shows (for some strange reason I can't make out). I f***ing love the Fresno,... https://youtu.be/8Y-0_p9wEDI ...Milwaukee... https://youtu.be/v7Q88cmylFw ...and Tampa gigs: https://youtu.be/o_tN4kJc8-M Last edited by BJFan99; 02-13-2018 at 06:27 PM..
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This one is nice too. https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=3902s&v=FNukJikMtX0
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https://youtu.be/TTSS3oWdYdk At least Jon knows his limits by now and therefor doesn't even bother going for notes that he knows he can't reach anymore. That said, there still are quite a few bum notes in there, but it's still miles better than the Giants '06 version (from a vocal standpoint anyway). However, Jon was much more passionate/energetic/mobile - CONFIDENCE is the word of the day, guys! - on stage back in '06, so from that perspective Giants obviously was far better. Last edited by BJFan99; 02-13-2018 at 07:22 PM..
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I don't think Jon's voice is particularly nasal anymore. He got rid of singing through his nose step by step during the BWC tour (to make a comparison, listen to Nashville or Cleveland from March 2013 first and then Prague, Milan, Bern or London from June/July '13, for example - at the later shows he's much less nasal). Nowadays he seems to have replaced the nasality by singing softly and shortening many of the previously long-held notes to avoid the nasal tone he'd have to use to nail them. As his chest voice has been more or less shot since 2003 (with the - again, technique-/exhaustion-based - damage progressed on his cords during the second half of the Bounce tour being the main reason for it), the only way he could regain his range around 2007-08 was to go for the high notes with the nasal head voice technique he had been using on-and-off on the low/mid-range notes since 2000 (or, at a more subtle level, since 1997). However, this technique, while taught by the professional vocal coach Katie Agresta, seemed to be quite exhausting and when Jon himself seemed to realize that his voice couldn't take it anymore (see Always from Cleveland '13 as a proof - he's REALLY struggling with his nasal technique), he decided to change his technique once more... but this time, most likely all by himself. Around April '13 Jon started trying to bring back his chest voice to get rid of the nasality and make himself sound more pleasant. (Again, this is just my theory, but it seems like it's pretty valid.) Needless to say, it didn't work long-term at all. He was still sounding quite decent in May and especially June as well as early July '13, but in mid-July his voice was shot to pieces already and Jon, being the workaholic we all know he is, with - once again - a crazy tour schedule, didn't have time to fix what was wrong with his voice early enough, progressing into even more damage (which was largely apparent in September/October '13 already and got totally out of hand in November/December). Also, around July, the stress that had slowly begun to progress basically on the day of Richie's departure, was really starting to take its toll on Jon, and Tico's two surgeries in October made it even worse. In 2014-15 the shit storm around the poor guy just kept worsening due to reasons I'll state later. So, add to... 1) Jon's (self-taught) bad/unsustainable vocal technique that naturally made his vocal abilities decline rapidly ...the following: 2) stress/confidence issues caused by Richie's departure, Stephanie's overdose, the Buffalo Bills fiasco and the problems with the record label (explains the significant inconsistency Jon displays as a singer nowadays as well as the step-by-step decline of his stage presence and overall convincingness as a performer - this was also the reason for Jon "pretty much giving his guitar the finger" in 2014, as the psychological issues affected his comfortability writing songs for what was to become THINFS around that time) That's basically it. Jon didn't have the most well-shaped or sustainable vocal technique around there to begin with, and as soon as he tried to change it by himself, it manifested itself largely in a similar way to the Slippery tour where he kept forcing his voice out night after night with no coaching or, therefor, any clue about what kind of singing would work within his vocal capabilities whatsoever. And nowadays it really seems like Jon doesn't have a clue about how to sing for the most part. However, the matters were made even worse by the stress and psychological pressure Jon had to suffer through in 2013-15 (which is what he's clearly still recovering from due to all the unfortunate events following each other and therefor again slowing/backing down the recovery started before). His voice is probably permanently damaged from the BWC tour (due to him basically ruining his voice with his unsustainable technique once more) and will never fully come back. The more gentle tone Jon uses nowadays clearly takes additional pressure off his vocal cords, and I'm almost 100% certain that Jon's been using a vocal coach to develop it during the last 3-4 years, as otherwise he'd most likely still be straining his cords to death by forcing his voice out like he did in '13. However, as soon as he manages to completely recover from the stress, his stage presence will probably make a full comeback. At this point, only time will tell. What it will tell is a completely different story, and currently not really worth a deeper discussion. Last edited by BJFan99; 02-27-2018 at 02:25 AM..
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