[BJFan99]

Originally Posted by GabrielC

This is my favorite version of This Ain't a Love Song

Mine too. The way Jon goes for the last chorus is just stunning.

[BJFan99]

Hard to believe it's now been almost 8 years since the band's last really legendary show (even without Richie):

https://youtu.be/OBiL54RYl0o

I'd legit give my left testicle to get even this band back, let alone the 2008-11 one...

[GabrielC]

Originally Posted by BJFan99

Hard to believe it's now been almost 8 years since the band's last really legendary show (even without Richie):

https://youtu.be/OBiL54RYl0o

I'd legit give my left testicle to get even this band back, let alone the 2008-11 one...

He really delivered Love's the Only Rule there. One of my favourite versions from 2013

[BJFan99]

Originally Posted by GabrielC

He really delivered Love's the Only Rule there. One of my favourite versions from 2013

Yeah. If I remember correctly, even Seb liked that performance

[Supersonic]

Aloha !

Originally Posted by BJFan99

Hard to believe it's now been almost 8 years since the band's last really legendary show (even without Richie):

https://youtu.be/OBiL54RYl0o

I'd legit give my left testicle to get even this band back, let alone the 2008-11 one...

That was by no means a legendary show. The first 2 hours of that show were done on auto-pilot and Jon was clearly thinking about something else.

That crowd was pretty good, the band was playing well, Jon had a good day vocally and yet still couldn't be bothered to lift this show from the dire detached mediocrity it turned out to be.

Even the banners didn't change his mood and his reaction was all acted. He knew it was going to happen and stopped the show because it'd be weird if he kept playing but he wasn't touched by it at all.

It was only once the encore started Jon was willing to put in some effort but would it not have been Milan I'd have gone home. A three hour show and only 50 minutes of it was truly exciting and reminded me of the better Bon Jovi shows I'd seen. Everything else was him just going through the motions with a band that soon followed him in the same way as their key player was replaced by someone who didn't have the chops to turn the songs into something else. That show right there was the moment I realized Bon Jovi were done. Even with the wind in all the right sails Jon's mind was still somewhere else.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

[bonjovi90]

Originally Posted by Supersonic

Aloha !

It was only once the encore started Jon was willing to put in some effort but would it not have been Milan I'd have gone home. A three hour show and only 50 minutes of it was truly exciting and reminded me of the better Bon Jovi shows I'd seen. Everything else was him just going through the motions with a band that soon followed him in the same way as their key player was replaced by someone who didn't have the chops to turn the songs into something else. That show right there was the moment I realized Bon Jovi were done. Even with the wind in all the right sails Jon's mind was still somewhere else.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

I remember it being hyped up as THE show on here and on social media afterwards - but then again, this happens with all Italian shows. The only time I really felt he was a frontman willing to go the extra mile without half of it on auto pilot was Cologne. He wasn't great vocally that night, but the fact that every second or third song was something unexpected kept fans going and Jon sharp because he really had to play outside his standard comfort zone of the time.

[Butters]

Seb has serious mind reading skillz, don't you know. He knows what Jon is thinking at any time. Definitely not confusing his own thoughts for Jon's.

[Supersonic]

Aloha !

Originally Posted by Butters

Seb has serious mind reading skillz, don't you know. He knows what Jon is thinking at any time. Definitely not confusing his own thoughts for Jon's.

I figured there ought to be someone going for this same old routine again.

I said the same thing about Jon Bon Jovi at Twickenham in 2008. Great crowd, good setlist, good vocals that day and yet none of the magic was there as Jon was just going through the motions.

A year or so later the documentary came out and it turned out he was suffering from a migraine because of his worries about the Central Park show happening a little later.

After having seen the odd 20 shows you just know when someone's there or when someone isn't. Weren't you able to tell if your teacher had an off day as well? Or your boss? Once you grow familiar with someones antics you just know when something's off.

With most shows since Richie's departure Jon just doesn't care anymore. His motivational drive on the 2013 tour was solely money and it showed during every single performance. He wasn't there to sell the music, he was there to sell a product.

Originally Posted by bonjovi90

I remember it being hyped up as THE show on here and on social media afterwards - but then again, this happens with all Italian shows. The only time I really felt he was a frontman willing to go the extra mile without half of it on auto pilot was Cologne. He wasn't great vocally that night, but the fact that every second or third song was something unexpected kept fans going and Jon sharp because he really had to play outside his standard comfort zone of the time.

The hyping I think a lot of it had something to do with what happened at the show in 2011 and many fans travelled to see the show in Milan, expecting a similar thing, especially once word got out this time it'd be even more spectacular.

Then the crowd lived up to its reputation and the show was very long with several rarities. This makes a lot of fans think it's a great show. Hyde Park was the same thing. Munich 2011 as well. All long shows with Jon completely on autopilot which only turned off once he'd have to deliver something out of his comfort zone. Milan was a pretty good farewell. 2 hours of music making me realize its over and then an encore showing he's able to still do it but won't. There's not one show since Lisbon 2011 making me wish I was there.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

[James_86]

The first night at Twickenham was the worst show I've ever been to. I remember it being absolutely dull as dishwater. The only thing that saved it for me was the Prayer/Bad Name opener which I'd always hoped to get.

Biffy Clyro supported and got crucified by almost the entire crowd. Real shame that alot of fans are so blinkered and see nothing outside of Jovi or bland A&R.

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[bonjovi90]

Originally Posted by James_86

The first night at Twickenham was the worst show I've ever been to. I remember it being absolutely dull as dishwater. The only thing that saved it for me was the Prayer/Bad Name opener which I'd always hoped to get.

Biffy Clyro supported and got crucified by almost the entire crowd. Real shame that alot of fans are so blinkered and see nothing outside of Jovi or bland A&R.

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I've had this feeling many times that, especially the majority of Bon Jovi crowds, are completely ignorant towards any other musical directions. It's similar at shows of other mainstream pop/rock bands, but rarely as distinct as with Bon Jovi's audience.