[Grypweed]

Originally Posted by RSROCKS

I agree with you on everything except this one simple statement. This all opinion based. Most of my favorite songs are collaborations between Jon and Richie (or even a third peron like Desmond). In fact, most of the "fan favorites" are cowritten between the twp of them, not just my personal favorites. To say that Jon has written the best Bon Jovi songs discredits quite a few people especially Richie.

I will however admit that songs he wrote on his own are great like BOR, Always, Dry County, Blaze of Glory etc. but as you pointed out, he has also written utter shit like I Got the Girl and Complicated.

Also, Richie has never written anything by himself for the band, so we don't know and will never know what he could have produced for the band as we all have pointed out that Richie writes differently for himself and others than he does with Jon for the band.

I didn't mean it quite how it sounded... I struggle for the right words most of the time.

I, like you, actually tend to prefer the collabs between the two of them, and often Desmond aswell.

I was just trying to say that Jon writes amazingly good songs on his own, ones that I think do stand out when you look back - DC, I Believe, BOR (not Always )... y'know... and ummm... yeah...... I don't know what the reason is; if Richie is incapable or just doesn't because it's not the kind of music he wants to make on his own, but he hasn't written anything that good ON HIS OWN. Whereas, when he writes with other people, we get songs like SITT, TD, US, Wanted...

But, as with everything, it all comes down to personal taste and opinion. I mean, I would probably take Stranger over anything Jovi have done, because I love Richie's writing style, and obviously his singing & playing. It just appeals to me more than Jon's solo stuff, but that doesn't mean to say one is better than the other.

[RSROCKS]

Just for shits and giggles since we are talking about who wrote what (Most info comes from DC and does not include the Boxsets or B-sides or Solo)

JBJ
In and Out of Love
The Price of Love
Silent Night
Wild in the Streets
Living in Sin
I Believe
Bed of Roses
Dry County
Woman in Love
Fear
I Want You
(It’s Hard) Letting You Go
Something To Believe In
Save The World
I Got The Girl
Right Side of Wrong
Wildflower
Novocaine
Put The Boy Back in Cowboy

JBJ & RS
Roulette
Burning For Love
Comeback
Get Ready
King of the Mountain
Tokyo Road
Always Run To You
Let It Rock
Social Disease
Wanted Dead or Alive
Raise Your Hands
Never Say Goodbye
Lay your Hands On Me
Homebound Train
Ride Cowboy Ride
I’ll Be There For You
99 In The Shade
Love For Sale
If I Was Your Mother
Blame It On the Love of Rock n’ Roll
Little Bit of Soul
Save a Prayer
Hey God
These Days
Lie To Me
Damned
My Guitar Lies Bleeding In My Arms
If That’s What It Takes
Thank You For Loving Me
Two Story Town
Next 100 Years
Captain Crash and The Beauty Queen From Mars
Joey
Love Me Back To Life
Open All Night (Bounce)
Who Says You Can’t Go Home
Walk Like a Man

JBJ & RS & Desmond Child
You Give Love a Bad Name
Livin On a Prayer
Without Love
I’d Die For You
Bad Medicine
Born To Be My Baby
Blood On Blood
Keep The Faith
I’ll Sleep When I’m Dead
Something For The Pain
This Ain’t A Love Song
Diamond Ring
One Wild Night
The Distance
Bells of Freedom
(You Want to) Make a Memory

JBJ & RS & Billy Falcon
Undivided
Bounce

JBJ & Billy Falcon
Say It Isn’t So
Just Older
Mystery Train
Last Man Standing
Story of My Life
Everybody’s Broken

JBJ & RS & Andreas Carlsson
Everyday
You Had Me From Hello

JBJ & RS & Child & Carlsson
Missunderstood
All About Lovin’ You
Hook Me Up

JBJ & Desmond Child
Hearts Breaking Even

JBJ & RS & DB
The Hardest Part is The Night
To The Fire (I Don’t Wanna Fall)
In These Arms
Lonely

JBJ & RS & D. Child & D. Warren
Wild Is the Wind

JBJ & RS & H. Knight
Stick To Your Guns

JBJ & DB
Love Lies
Breakout
Only Lonely
Last Cigarette

JBJ & RS & TT & B. Grabowski
Secret Dreams

JBJ & G. Karak
Runaway

M. Avsec
She Don’t Know Me

JBJ & J. Ponti
Shot Through The Heart

JBJ & RS & John Shanks
Have a Nice Day
I Want To Be Loved
Welcome to Wherever You Are
I Am
Lost Highway
Summertime
The Last Night
One Step Closer
I Love This Town

JBJ & John Shanks
Whole Lotta Leavin

JBJ & RS & Kenny and Jon Rich
We Got It Goin On

JBJ & RS & Gordie Sampson
Any Other Day

JBJ & RS & Hilary L.
Seat Next to You


JBJ & RS & BJ
Til We Ain’t Stranges Anymore

JBJ & BF & Max Martin
Complicated

JBJ & RS & Max Martin
It’s My Life

JBJ & SP
She’s a Mystery

[kenobi_on_a_prayer]

Molly Meldrum interviews Richie in 1998, he mentions his songwriting.

Richie Sambora - Interview (Australia) - YouTube

[Grypweed]

See, the songs that sound like BON JOVI (for the most part anyway), are the JBJ/RS and/or JBJ/RS/DC songs. The ones that Jon writes alone don't actually sound like Bon Jovi, they could basically all fit on DA.

--but TD was written with Richie.

[Crushgen24/88]

The three major writers/teams (JBJ, JBJ/Sambora, a JBJ/Sambora/Child) are all good to great in there own ways IMO.

[(Don't)Lie_to_me]

Originally Posted by Crushgen24/88

The three major writers/teams (JBJ, JBJ/Sambora, a JBJ/Sambora/Child) are all good to great in there own ways IMO.

Exactly, differently good, and differently bad.

[Crushgen24/88]

Originally Posted by (Don't)Lie_to_me

Exactly, differently good, and differently bad.

Yeah......

[TheseDays2005]

Originally Posted by Crushgen24/88

The three major writers/teams (JBJ, JBJ/Sambora, a JBJ/Sambora/Child) are all good to great in there own ways IMO.

Originally Posted by (Don't)Lie_to_me

Exactly, differently good, and differently bad.

What's the use posting anything at all if above??? Its like talking to a person without a opinion or a politician.

[(Don't)Lie_to_me]

Agreement is all part of conversation. You don't have to have your own point to make.

I do have a few thoughts on th whole songwriting thing, but my summary would have been that ^, so I saved myself the hassle.

[Crushgen24/88]

Originally Posted by TheseDays2005

What's the use posting anything at all if above??? Its like talking to a person without a opinion or a politician.

Ok, let me write it nice and clear for you:
I like both JBJ's solo writing and JBJ's writing with Richie, but that there is a definable difference that leads to differences both good and bad.