[Kathleen]

Originally Posted by jovifan93

I'm sorry, while those arrangements are great and Bounce is a great band overall, every singer of every cover/tribute band I've ever seen (on YouTube) just sounds like a very cheap copy of Jon. Either they try too hard, they put on too much rasp, their voice is just too different, whatever - it's just not the real thing. I definitely prefer Jon over any of them at anytime

Unfortunately, these days Jon doesn't sing many of these songs, and he doesn't sing the rest of them well all the time. And I will answer why I love this even though it's a "coverband". In my case it has to do with the music - I have always loved the music and if someone is playing and singing it well, why wouldn't I love it. Do I only listen to Beethoven played by Beethoven? Nope - I listen to interpretations of Beethoven from all over the spectrum. I simply love the music.

I think Dominik is correct by saying that these guys put their own spin on this music and I admire them for it. In the end, in my opinion Jon is an excellent songwriter - he can really write some beautiful melodies. Unfortunately, these days he can't sing a lot of them so he doesn't. Why should we NOT want to hear those songs again if the original lead singer can't (or won't) sing them?

[Rdkopper]

I can't believe this conversation is actually taking place but there is no way I'd rather see a cover band who could sing better, over the real thing.

If you want to go analyze the two over YouTube or some other type of bootleg that's one thing but Jon is Jon. Jon has the overall entire package that can not be replicated.

In the beginning of Band Name when all three guys were doing the strut to the stage, it looked absolutely ridiculous.

I hate the fact that Jon can no longer do his older songs justice but not to the point where I'd rather see another singer do them. Considering that Jon and I are both from Jersey, that guys accent bothers the shit out of me. He's a decent singer and probably one of the best cover bands I've ever heard but it doesn't mean that he's A-List.

They would be a great filler in between tours or something but nothing beats a Giants Stadium, MSG, or a Prudential Center show.

Like I've stated a million times. A lot gets drowned out being there and you don't notice how bad it actually is because it's so loud, the crowd fills in a lot, plus other distractions.

[jovifan93]

Originally Posted by bonjovi90

I'd prefer a young Jon over any singer as well, but this Jon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L32FQUA-VJc

over this singer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6KJh-P7GTE

Not so sure I can see where you're coming from - used to have a similar attitude and might be a bit biased since I've been knowing the guys from Bounce personally for quite some time, but to me Olli just has a distinctive voice on his own which isn't too close to Jon's but fits the songs well enough not to make them sound too alienating.

Well, you picked one of the baddest performances of Jon there from last tour, didn't you? I know what you mean, and everyone is more than entitled to like who they like, but to me Bon Jovi = Jon, most importantly because of his voice. I even have songs from other bands which I only like as a Bon Jovi cover (Rocking All Over The World for example), mostly because of Jon's voice. Hell, in his best days he could take any song and turn it into something special

But it's not just BJ. I also find it strange when other bands (have to) change their lead singer. On the one hand, I perfectly understand it (happened to me and my band as well, but we're hobby musicians), on the other hand, the voice is the most recognizable thing for me, so I feel that that's not a good idea.

Anyway, pass some greeting along to Bounce if you want, their playing is excellent and yeah, Olli can definitely sing, his voice is just not my cup of tea, but I wish them all the best

[jovifan93]

Originally Posted by Kathleen

Unfortunately, these days Jon doesn't sing many of these songs, and he doesn't sing the rest of them well all the time. And I will answer why I love this even though it's a "coverband". In my case it has to do with the music - I have always loved the music and if someone is playing and singing it well, why wouldn't I love it. Do I only listen to Beethoven played by Beethoven? Nope - I listen to interpretations of Beethoven from all over the spectrum. I simply love the music.

I think Dominik is correct by saying that these guys put their own spin on this music and I admire them for it. In the end, in my opinion Jon is an excellent songwriter - he can really write some beautiful melodies. Unfortunately, these days he can't sing a lot of them so he doesn't. Why should we NOT want to hear those songs again if the original lead singer can't (or won't) sing them?

I get your point, and if you can enjoy interpretations of these songs by other artists, that's great It's just that I can't. I need to have Jon's voice on them, I don't even like Richie singing BJ songs too much. I don't know how to perfectly say it in English, but I just need these penetrating high "eee"s that Jon does, I also don't like rasp too much, I prefer his cleaner voice from the 90s/2000s onward, and of course the tone and color of Jon's voice is quite unique.

[Johny]

I think Dominik didn't say he would rather go to a Bounce concert than to a Bon Jovi concert. This debate seems kind of ridiculous. Everybody knows who wrote the songs and used to play and sing them the best.
I think Bounce is an amazing band that does something we would love Bon Jovi to do with their music. I like their singer and yes I hear it's different but that's ok, better like this than a copycat.
The only thing that bothers me about Bounce is that they only play on the west side of Germany, so I haven't seen them live yet.

[bonjovi90]

Originally Posted by Johny

I think Dominik didn't say he would rather go to a Bounce concert than to a Bon Jovi concert. This debate seems kind of ridiculous. Everybody knows who wrote the songs and used to play and sing them the best.
I think Bounce is an amazing band that does something we would love Bon Jovi to do with their music. I like their singer and yes I hear it's different but that's ok, better like this than a copycat.
The only thing that bothers me about Bounce is that they only play on the west side of Germany, so I haven't seen them live yet.

Couldn't have summed it up better! Thanks, Johny!
And they'll be near my hometown in November, so I'll ask them about going into your direction. They played their first gigs in Switzerland during the last years and are going to the South of Germany where they haven't been before either. So I guess they'll be heading your way someday as well

[Supersonic]

Aloha !

Bounce are pretty much Gotthard (a Swiss hard rock band) of the late nineties playing Bon Jovi songs. The singer sounds very much like their lead singer, I'm surprised he never got a call once the original singer was killed in a motor cycle accident. The singer really is that good, and anyone who thinks differently is absolutely tonedeaf.

Originally Posted by jovifan93

It's just that I can't. I need to have Jon's voice on them, I don't even like Richie singing BJ songs too much. I don't know how to perfectly say it in English, but I just need these penetrating high "eee"s that Jon does, I also don't like rasp too much, I prefer his cleaner voice from the 90s/2000s onward, and of course the tone and color of Jon's voice is quite unique.

Yeah, but see, no offence, I don't get this. Nowadays Jon just doesn't sound anything like the Jon Bon Jovi from the nineties, let alone the one from the eighties. There are glimpses of it every now and then, but most of it is just really nasal and whiny. The lead singer of Bounce gets closer to Jon from the nineties than Jon does. All the high "eee"s you're mentioning he's capable of actually nailing the way Jon did on the Keep The Faith and 1995 tours. Jon just isn't.

And it's not just that the singer sounds different. He just sounds better, has better technique, has a better tone. It's just that so many fans have become used to whatever sound Jon is making nowadays that as soon as anyone actually does come close to Jon Bon of the past they don't seem to realize that it's that sound that made them a fan, and not the Jon, the rent-an-axe, the jukebox-clown, the bassplayerwhoshallnotbenamed, the bicycle repairman, the car mechanic and the fanclub run by Twat Bon Jovi.

Want to hear what any Bon Jovi song released nowadays would sound like with a 90's Jon? You just got to listen to a performance from Bounce. Always is sang better than Jon ever could. The same goes for In These Arms. Even their guitarist is as sloppy as Richie is. They got their act down well.

All this bullshit about how "Jon has the charisma" is really just bullshit to me. I'm not there for the charisma, I'm there for the music, and the music sounds a lot better during a Bounce show than it does on a Bon Jovi show. I enjoyed their performance in a small local club certainly a lot more than the 3 hour extravaganza in Milan. Unlike a Bon Jovi show, a Bounce concert actually rocks. And if they'd mix up their set a bit more I'd certainly be willing to travel to their shows the same way I've travelled to Bon Jovi shows.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

[jovifan93]

Originally Posted by Supersonic

Aloha !

Bounce are pretty much Gotthard (a Swiss hard rock band) of the late nineties playing Bon Jovi songs. The singer sounds very much like their lead singer, I'm surprised he never got a call once the original singer was killed in a motor cycle accident. The singer really is that good, and anyone who thinks differently is absolutely tonedeaf.

Agreed.

Yeah, but see, no offence, I don't get this. Nowadays Jon just doesn't sound anything like the Jon Bon Jovi from the nineties, let alone the one from the eighties. There are glimpses of it every now and then, but most of it is just really nasal and whiny. The lead singer of Bounce gets closer to Jon from the nineties than Jon does. All the high "eee"s you're mentioning he's capable of actually nailing the way Jon did on the Keep The Faith and 1995 tours. Jon just isn't.

I agree that the singer of Bounce has a way higher range than Jon has (and probably ever had), and hits the notes. In certain passages he even sounds like Jon, as you said, but then in other passages he sounds so different that to me it just doesn't ring true. And what I meant with 90s/2000s with Jon is probably from 98/99 onwards, not the 80s or early 90s (which were great, too, probably even better, but I've gotten so used to Jon's later voice that I actually enjoy that more. Like it or not )

And it's not just that the singer sounds different. He just sounds better, has better technique, has a better tone. It's just that so many fans have become used to whatever sound Jon is making nowadays that as soon as anyone actually does come close to Jon Bon of the past they don't seem to realize that it's that sound that made them a fan, and not the Jon, the rent-an-axe, the jukebox-clown, the bassplayerwhoshallnotbenamed, the bicycle repairman, the car mechanic and the fanclub run by Twat Bon Jovi.

Well, sounding better or having a better tone comes down to personal taste. Does he have a better technique? Probably. But probably he is just gifted with a very good voice. Let's hope for him that his lasts longer than Jon's.

Want to hear what any Bon Jovi song released nowadays would sound like with a 90's Jon? You just got to listen to a performance from Bounce. Always is sang better than Jon ever could. The same goes for In These Arms. Even their guitarist is as sloppy as Richie is. They got their act down well.

Better than Jon ever could? Nowadays. Most likely. In 94/95? No way. A cover or tribute is still that - not the real deal, even if it comes close. The remark about Richie made me smile though

All this bullshit about how "Jon has the charisma" is really just bullshit to me. I'm not there for the charisma, I'm there for the music, and the music sounds a lot better during a Bounce show than it does on a Bon Jovi show. I enjoyed their performance in a small local club certainly a lot more than the 3 hour extravaganza in Milan. Unlike a Bon Jovi show, a Bounce concert actually rocks. And if they'd mix up their set a bit more I'd certainly be willing to travel to their shows the same way I've travelled to Bon Jovi shows.

You're perfectly entitled to, but I'm there for the charisma/seeing one of my idols as well as for the music, so I probably wouldn't travel to see Bounce, but if they ever come to Berlin again (last time was in 2009 according to their website), I'll probably go check them out.

[Supersonic]

Aloha !

Originally Posted by jovifan93

Better than Jon ever could? Nowadays. Most likely. In 94/95? No way. A cover or tribute is still that - not the real deal, even if it comes close. The remark about Richie made me smile though

I'm not saying they're a better band than Bon Jovi are, because they're not.

But as for the singer...He's certainly better than Jon has ever been. He's capable of nailing In These Arms in the original key, meaning not tuned down half a step. The same goes for everything else. I don't think Jon was ever capable of doing so, not even while recording In These Arms. Always, Good Guys, In These Arms, all sung better than Jon ever could.

Always:

Bon Jovi Tributeband BOUNCE - Always - YouTube

Good Guys Don't Always Wear White:

BOUNCE (Bon Jovi - Good guys don't always wear...

They're pretty much the only band capable of nailing the songs Jon just can't sing anymore, and the guitarist is getting better as well. He'll always be sloppy, but then again, Richie used to be on another level, really. And think about it, they're a cover band. Cheaper gear and all of that. I kind of wonder what Bon Jovi would sound like through their amps, mixed by their people, if you know what I mean.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

[Captain_jovi]

Originally Posted by Supersonic

Aloha !



I'm not saying they're a better band than Bon Jovi are, because they're not.

But as for the singer...He's certainly better than Jon has ever been. He's capable of nailing In These Arms in the original key, meaning not tuned down half a step. The same goes for everything else. I don't think Jon was ever capable of doing so, not even while recording In These Arms. Always, Good Guys, In These Arms, all sung better than Jon ever could.

Always:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWTR1_lFm7A

Good Guys Don't Always Wear White:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFyWM93CUPA

They're pretty much the only band capable of nailing the songs Jon just can't sing anymore, and the guitarist is getting better as well. He'll always be sloppy, but then again, Richie used to be on another level, really. And think about it, they're a cover band. Cheaper gear and all of that. I kind of wonder what Bon Jovi would sound like through their amps, mixed by their people, if you know what I mean.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

I remember when the TLFR shows were live broadcast from the Borgata I had it saved and you could hear the mistakes and rough patches and how smoothed over and levelled out it sounded when it was all cleaned up for the DVD. The backing vocals in It's My Life especially.