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Old 07-26-2016, 11:04 PM
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That's what the band was all about for 30 years
I don't believe that at all... Jon admitted that he'd make the worst A&R guy!

He takes pride in being the bands leader but says that everyone has a role to fill.
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:17 PM
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I don't believe that at all... Jon admitted that he'd make the worst A&R guy!

He takes pride in being the bands leader but says that everyone has a role to fill.
There was more of a band-feeling to them in the 80's, but even back then Jon said that every member had his saying and that he was the one making the ultimate decision. Bob Rock mentioned in an interview around one or two years ago that when they were recording Keep The Faith the dynamics had shifted a lot more towards Jon.

That being said - I agree with you that everyone has a certain role to fulfill and he keeps emphasizing that when talking about his quarterback-theory.
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:24 PM
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There was more of a band-feeling to them in the 80's, but even back then Jon said that every member had his saying and that he was the one making the ultimate decision. Bob Rock mentioned in an interview around one or two years ago that when they were recording Keep The Faith the dynamics had shifted a lot more towards Jon.

That being said - I agree with you that everyone has a certain role to fulfill and he keeps emphasizing that when talking about his quarterback-theory.
Jon forming Bon jovi management probably had something to do with the shift in dynamics within the band. It only got more pronounced from crush onwards, especially after LH when Richie's presence in the band creatively, live and in interviews....

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Jon forming Bon jovi management probably had something to do with the shift in dynamics within the band. It only got more pronounced from crush onwards, especially after LH when Richie's presence in the band creatively, live and in interviews....

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Richie's involvement with the band post LH was as high as ever, I don't think it was until 2012 that his co-writing input had any changes.
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Old 07-27-2016, 12:15 AM
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Richie's involvement with the band post LH was as high as ever, I don't think it was until 2012 that his co-writing input had any changes.
Writing and recording the circle sure, but I stand by what I said. Even as far back as the hand tour, his presence on stage, his appearances on interviews with Jon and especially his backing vocals were all dissipating from tour to tour and that's why the band can progresively be seen turning into the Jon show as those tours go on, not because Dave's and Tico's input and presence is less valuable but because Richie's was so important....

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Old 07-27-2016, 02:56 AM
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But to be fair, it doesn't seem to me that the Frankie story got any more air time than the story about Jon not thinking LOAP would be a hit and didn't want it on the album until Richie (and Des, in a few of the stories, iirc) convinced him. So in the he said/he said category, the two stories kinda balance each other.
Maybe I just happened to hear the "Frankie" story more?

I have heard Jon say in interviews that he isn't the best at judging songs to be put in albums. And then there was the story about a song that was put in the reject pile and Jon said once a song went there they weren't pulled back out. Except for one time a song was pulled out and it was a hit song. But I can't remember what song it was now. Can someone help me out here?
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Old 07-27-2016, 05:43 AM
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Except for one time a song was pulled out and it was a hit song. But I can't remember what song it was now. Can someone help me out here?
This must have been Always.
As far as I remember Jon put it aside and I think John Kalodner convinced him that it's a hit so they put it on Crossroad. And the rest is history.
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Old 07-27-2016, 07:28 PM
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This must have been Always.
As far as I remember Jon put it aside and I think John Kalodner convinced him that it's a hit so they put it on Crossroad. And the rest is history.
Yes thank you so very much! How could I have forgotten that it was Always? I love that song!
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