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Originally Posted by manarosi
As i already said this isn't about opinions, because frankly we might even have the same pov as i share many things that you say about jon and his voice. What is annoying is the fact that ,believe me, whenever somebody is a bit "optimistic" you're always there criticizing, treating them as incompetent and stupid, and quite frankly is a bit " offensive" even if nobody is directly mentioned:Anybody can have his own opinion, maybe different from yours but not necessarily wrong!!  Anyway, didn't want to create any flame or to tell you how to behave, i'll get back in read-only mode 
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Here's a reply I got from Walleris when I was a bit more optimistic about Jon's voice than most members here:
"I will mark your words and show it to you the next time Jon butchers a super easy song and you will look really stupid."
I mean, am I stupid for actually noticing some level of improvement in Jon's vocals - something that many others have done as well? Are we all complete morons?
EDIT: I understand. Back when I posted my original verdict about Jon's current situation as a vocalist and a performer, I wrote the following:
"If the progression continues in the way it's lately been, the guy will probably be back to decent vocal shape on the European tour next year."
I didn't mean "decent" by '08-'11 standards, as those times were vocally too good to ever be matched - let alone surpassed - again. For me, a decent-sounding Jon can be heard here:
https://youtu.be/ASu7VtQVEOM
His vocals are not perfect and he's gripping the f*** out of the mic stand, but there's power, punch and energy. Instead of whispering and shouting, he at least attempts to SING the whole song as resonantly as he can and manages to stay in key for the most part, whereas nowadays he struggles mightily to control his pitch even during the verses.
I don't think that level of vocal consistency is impossible for Jon to regain.