Retirement?

Aloha !

No more fool you. Someone can be a big rock legend, as long as I don't like it like for example Bruce Springsteen, an artist I just can't get into, I will not buy his albums, no matter how big the artist is.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Very well said!

Now if that's not stupid than I don't know.Baiscally, your argument says Bon Jovi are touring because of some people they need to feed!That's what you are saying...how stupid can this be?"They were counting on the band's return!"...wow...is this stupid. Rock 'n' Roll is a very uncertain job. look at crazy Ozzy. he almst died just before of his tour. I guess if he died his road crew would have starved...that's what you are saying and I haven't heard something that dumb for ages.

Of course there were some bad shows in the 80s...but BON JOVI played 200 dates a tour back in the 80s. every other day a show.What did they play now? 50 shows? 3 days between shows.And out of those 50 only 10-15 were great.
Bon Jovi were worse in the 80s?HAHA...Jon could sing/scream his ass off.
I have more brilliant bootlegs from the JERSEY TOUR than tehre were shows in the Bounce Tour so how can you say that?All that energy, all that stage presence. The whole appearence of the band including pyrotehnics. It's just hard to believe that someone honsetly believes BJ were worse in the 80s than they are today.

No...that's not true. How many new songs do they play a night? 3-4...let's say 5. That's 30 percent of the show in the worst case. No...it's not because of the last albums.
It's about Jon not taking his time to bring some diversity into the setlists.Same shit every night.
It's Jon who doesn't take his time to give the fans something they want...liek THESE DAYS songs or at least ONE 7800 DEGREES SONG or even songs like LET IT ROCK or SOCIAL DISEASE or HOMEBOUND TRAIN or FEAR.
And IT's Jon whose vocals have become weaker and weaker over the last few years. Let's face it...he can'r hit any high not and after he has sung 1 hour I sound better than him.
And of course RICHIE has lost lots of his energy too.He was a wild guitarsit during the 80s. He would headbang, he would run up and down the stage, he would play every nigty a different solo, he would take his shirt off and play ****ing' naked so people can watch how every single muscle on his body moves while he plays, he would play intro solo's and more outro solo's.
I guess Dave and Tico are as cool as they were in the past....only the clothes were better...

I'm not saying it's the sole reason for them coming back again and again. But I'm sure it plays important role too.

Here's the expert from the interview Jon did in 2004 for Redbook magazine.



Q. Ever think about slowing down?

A. No. I couldn't stop, because I love to be creative. Plus, there are hundreds of people who depend on me: the band, the crew, the record company, all their families. We put food on the table.



These are his own words. Don't believe me - find this magazine. It's Redbook January 2004.

About the rest think what you will. I told you my opinion. As I said bad shows are lost and forgotten, good shows are here for us to admire. (The shows I saw didn't leave any impression on me. The thing I remember is mostly pyros. Screaming singer and screeching guitars - that was my impression [a bit exaggerated]- didn't impress me.) The same thing is gonna happen with Crush and Bounce tour stuff. Garbage is thrown away. Good stuff are here to stay. They are the same band. Only more polished.

I fust want to add that if they start writing songs like Let it rock, Social Disease and Homebound Train again, I'm going to puke. This is so hair bands. Songs like these is one of the reasons hair bands are ridiculed today.

Aloha !

There was more diversity in the Bounce, Crush and OWN setlists then there was in the Jersey and Slippery tour setlists, when they only changed about 2 songs every concert. And those were the same songs each time.

This is not true. the intro's for for example In And Out Of Love were the same each night, only a few small changes. Richie changed his solo's just as much now as he did in the eighties. And I don't need a nude guitarplayer on stage, it's not what Richie's like, I don't need him to act like someone who does that.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

No buying Clapton;s records because he used to be amazing is stupid. Jack Bruce isn't as big a name, but was one of the main reasons everybody knows who Clapton is, and there is in my eyes more of him in Cream than clapton.

I'd say what I said to anybody who shuts themselves of to other artists because they're not as big as somebody else.

being a 'rock legend' should have nothing to do with it. Of course you're more likely to buy that album, but to dismiss other people in the way the 'whatever' post did is pretty sad/

I can't remember the name of the tour I saw but it had 'the Pretenders' or something like that in them. They were awful, but ended up ocming onstage for quite a few songs. The show started slow, but ok. Then it really got going with a few accoustic things building into electric, ending with something like Bell Bottom Blues. Then those jokers came out and killed the show dead. Clapton seemed much much more into doing the bluesy, accoustic stuff, but then when it was bringing out the old songs they just died. Plus the cream stuff sounds overdone if played by 4 people, so the numbers he had on stage were just far too many to rock. Then ending with Somewhere Over the Rainbow, one of the alltime lows in rock music

Clapton fans might not be as wild, but I'd think that if we went onstage as a three piece again, playing killer blues the audainces would go for it big style. I think he brings in an audiance of older people who sit down through the show and don't seem to get into it because of what he's palying... As I said, jack Bruce was pulling in people of the same age, probably a lot of the same audiance as well, but they really went for him!

Aloha !

That is not what I said I did. I still buy albums from Clapton because I still enjoy the albums. Yes I know it's no longer a wild album, but still the stuff that's on it is what I like.

And you've been to the Reptile tour, which was in fact excellent in my opinion. He did do the songs justice, and yes I know the songs didn't really rock out, most of them had different arrangements, but it was all quitte good stuff I think. And like I said, Clapton isn't only rock, so when going to a Clapton show expecting him to rock while you know he plays so many different styles is a bit foolish in my opinion.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

You'll notice that I said my favourite section of the show was the accoustic bluesy set. I didn't expect him to rock out, but when he tried it sucked bit time! I'd much sooner see him playing layed back blues, like he did on the BB king album because I think he still seems to go for that, but the oldies he seems to do because he's got to.