Richie Sambora!!!

Those guys were insane back in the day, but they pretty much stopped the whole partying thing a long time ago. Nikki and Mick have been clean for years, possibly Tommy too. I think Vince just likes to drink now, hence his weight.


Partying for 40 years will take it's toll on your body long term. Because he mumbles a bit it doesn't mean he's high. It's just the way he is now. Which is why people that don't understand will always presume that he is high or drunk in every clip, when in actual fact he's just dealing with all the years of abuse that he's put heis body through. I've seen enough of both to know the difference.

You got all that from a 30 second clip? Because he mumbled a bit he's back to the way he was when he was with Ori? Okay...

Not sure why people are still thinking Richie even wants back in Bon Jovi, nothing I've seem from him indicates that at all. In fact quite the opposite...

As long as Jon and Richie are still alive and able to perform on some level, then I'm sure it will happen one day, but it will be for the money, and it's years and years away yet, if it does happen....

I'm not saying that Richie hasn't changed at all, of course he has, we all change as we get older. People just jump on the Richie's drunk again bandwagon, without fully understanding, and it's tiring now. Richie is never going to be the way he like he was in his 20s, 30s and even his 40s, that's the top an bottom of it, but he's still the same Richie, personality wise. He was always a goof. Yes the jokes seem forced now, etc, but again that's part of the age thing, He definitely needs to tone it down.

Guys, I love this discussion here. Thinny, your posts are the most insightful analysis I've read in a long time and my friends absolutely agree with that, too. Thank you.

To be honest,I think Richie is drunk or under any kind ob substance.
Its my opinion.
Its very sad but,as RD said,I dont see him coming back for an any kind of reunion tour ever.
Even worst,Im scare of getting up any morning and see a bad new on social media about him.
Since he finished with Orianthi he was in a very good shape,but the Richie on that last video is the RSO disaster Richie.

And Nikki Sixx champions feminism. His words, not mine - he's always been a poser. Still, not exactly something you would have associated with '80s Mötley Crüe

Vince has been an alcoholic way post Dr Feelgood, there's a vid of him shit faced on stage beyond any ability to perform from around 2009 or so: https://youtu.be/zRViorQ6pls

Hell, Nikki relapsed around 2000 with regards to cocaine. No idea how clean any of them are right now, to be honest. The "we became clean and here we are schtick!" is just as much image as the "WE PARTY HARD DUDE" used to be.

As I said, Vince definitey still likes to drink, always has, always will.

2000 was 20 years ago...so a long time. I've no reason to think that Nikki isn't clean now, or at least has it under control. He always seems very on it and focused. He's just a bit of a dick.

Nikki is definitely functional, whether he still uses stuff or not I don't know. I just meant that the whole "change" thing was also kinda fake. And especially weird how he still LOVES to talk about his heroin days and glorify their edgy coolness.

Any way, have you actually heard the new Crüe stuff on the The Dirt compilation? Vince is autotuned to hell, JBJ seems to put on a more convincing studio vocal these days easily.

Yes I have, good tracks (apart from the godawful Madonna cover...) but yes autotuned like crazy. But Vince's voice has been shot for a lot longer than Jon's and Jon has a much better work ethic. I don't think Vince really gives a shit.

Thinny, I'm not asking this to accuse Richie of anything, I'm just genuinely curious. Have you noticed the slurring goes away sometimes? Like, there are interviews since 2014 where you can barely understand what he's saying and some where he's clear-headed, focussed and enunciating. I don't know much about drug use and repercussions from the past, how does something like that work?

There's no doubt in my mind that in 2014 he was using heavily. To me, this was him at his worst. He was a mess. What he have today is not that. Not even close. In fact it could well be that period that caused the damage we see today. Although to be honest I don't think we've really seen enough of him in the past 12 months or so to judge either way. I'm certainly not going to base anything on a 30 second video, other than my personal opinion.

Even weed effects people long term. I know people that smoked constantly (and just weed) in their 20s and 30s. Today they are constantly paranoid, fidgetey and on edge even though they completely cleaned up when they settled down into a family life.

I don't know what Richie was using over the years, but it was certainly a lot more than weed. It messes with the brain. It can mess with your motor functions, long term and short term memory, even your bones! Hell, some legal drugs can mess you up if you use them constantly (I've seen that too) never mind the really hard stuff. The body needs to be looked after otherwise it will start to fail. Steven Adler is a good example. Similarly to Richie he has been on and off the wagon his whole life. When he's sober people still claim he's drunk, but it's not, it's just that his brain and body work differently to how it used to. But like anything people have good days and bad days, some days it can seem worse than others. If you are tired for instance.

I'm not claiming to be an expert about this, i just know what i've seen and I have a very good friend in LA who's whole job was dealing with musicians that need help to get off of drugs, and keeping them off of them (or keeping it managable in some cases), and to help them adjust to life after substance abuse, so I know a little.

But at the end of the day, my opinion is no more valid than anyone elses. We will all believe what we believe and no amont of discussion is likely to change that. It's all just speculation as none of us know for sure 100%