Richie Sambora!!!

That quote from Jon is not good. It shows what went wrong with how he was doing things and how the band truly became a solo project in all but name. WAN is such a shower of shite, truly a terrible album. If Jon was rushing it to stay relevant (that word has destroyed Bon Jovi), is there any wonder the final product is so crap.

Still, when Tico said no, Richie would have already been on board because at least 10 songs had already been written.

So was getting David Bryan, Tico Torres and Richie Sambora – back together for another album difficult?

It turns out it almost never happened – because Jon can’t help lying. “The goal is the big anthemic record that is relevant to today,” JBJ said of the latest recording.

“I feel pretty good about it. Making it happen wasn’t as easy as saying, ‘We are going to work’. That’s because I am a liar.

“I started to write in September 2011, right after we got off the road. I couldn’t help myself. I started to do demos and I called Tico and asked him to come in and play.

“There was silence on the other end then a resounding no. I said, ‘What do you mean, no?’

“He said, ‘You told me we weren’t going to work the rest of the year. The answer is no’.

“I laughed and said we would mess around with anybody playing drums. It was well into 2012 before he was willing to come and play drums with me.

“He said I was crazy and that he needed a life.

“While Richie was doing his solo record and Dave was developing a new play following his success on Broadway, I worked on this album.

“Then they all came round and started playing on what became the songs... and here we are.”

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entert...s-band-1740311

No. There is more... but it's like trying to find a needle in a haystack...

Jon talked a great deal about a solo album being a Smaller Production and More Lyric Driven... That's what Tico was asked to play on... That interview from Jon above was him reiterating an interview from Tico so yes, he's going to say that those songs were from the first batch of WAN because that's what he was promoting but Tico gave an interview and told that same story. Jon had some demos that he wanted Tico to play on which was wayyy before WAN ever left the ground...

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The timeline for that doesn't fit though!

He says above about WAN that "I started the writing process in 2011 in September, by June in '12 It was completed. The whole record written, recorded and finished."

He called Tico Oct/Nov 2011 so by then it seems that he had already decided against the solo album that he was talking about a year earlier...

Anyway, this is really a lot of discussion about one throw away comment....

Thank You!!! So there you go... Richie and Dave weren't in the picture at all... Dave was doing Broadway and Richie was doing Aftermath...He needed Tico to play on some early demos... I think it was the Stand Up Guy songs and The Fighter. That fits the timeline... It sounds like Shanks wasn't even involved yet at this point or else he would have played drums...So Yes, I'm leaning more towards solo at this stage. Everything starts off as Jon solo and then morphs into the band...

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Huh? All those quotes are clearly still talking about WAN not a solo record....

The only quotes about a solo record were over a year before, which ended up just being the 2 soundtrack songs.

You said earlier that it's common for jon to start the band records on his own, and now because Dave and Richie weren't there, it was a solo record? Holy contradictions Batman!

I'm guessing he was including the week long detox stint he did in June 2007.

Jon needed to get out 2 songs for the Stand Up Guy soundtrack. He obviously needed a drummer and it was during that same period... A + B = C Robin

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Calm down Robin and Batman!

JBJ: "While I was in the cycle in 2011 writing for 'the band' once you knock the rust off which is typical, you start to develope a voice and then if you're really on a roll you start to getting outside of that wheelhouse and you're writing for other people and then in this case for other projects so I reminded myself that I had written some things for a film before, I called my old agent on the film business and I asked if there's anything and he said there was this one particular film called Stand Up Guys, I said well send me the script, that was on a Monday, on a Tuesday I received the scrip, by Wednesday I had written Old Habits Die Hard, sent it back to them and by Thursday they were calling me saying Wow; the producer had suggested that I could write a second song and I wrote Not Running Anymore. The original demos were something to my iPhone, then in my studio with a completely different band."

@Yovana: Awesome job mediating.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ra...ne-true-379504

Production on the film started in April, 2012. "A month-and-a-half" prior would be sometime in February, 2012.

2 + 2 = 4, Batman. Over to you...