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Old 11-06-2018, 11:10 PM
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The original demos were something to my iPhone, then in my studio with a completely different band."
so...no Tico then. I guess A + B does not = C. Who knew?
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Old 11-06-2018, 11:25 PM
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@Yovana: Awesome job mediating.



https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ra...ne-true-379504



Production on the film started in April, 2012. "A month-and-a-half" prior would be sometime in February, 2012.

2 + 2 = 4, Batman. Over to you...
We can play this timeline game all day long but it's beyond the point anyway. However just to prove You and Thinny wrong, here is my proof so... Ready? Pay attention!!!

- We know Jon wanted to do solo album in 2010.
- He had material that he solely worked on in 2011.
- He called in Tico to do demos in November 2011.
- He left Richie and Dave alone to finish their solo projects until mid 2012.
- Jon did say that he wanted to do a smaller production stripped back acoustic type solo album and it just so happens that the first songs we heard just happen to be that.
- The Fighter and at least one of the 2 Stand Up Guy tracks fit that mold beyond anything that came out on WAN.
- Jon said he got the script before it was cast and as of February 1st 2012, the cast was announced - See Link Below
- Feb 1st - 3 Months = November!!!! BANG!!! GOODNIGHT!!!
- Dave was working equally hard on his solo stuff and had NO issue.

Saying Richie was overworked was a stretch to begin with but when you break it down and combine it with Jon and Dave's current interviews, it's now beyond ridiculous.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...en-alan-286459

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“I started to write in September 2011, right after we got off the road. I couldn’t help myself. I started to do demos and I called Tico and asked him to come in and play."

“It was well into 2012 before he was willing to come and play drums with me.
While Richie was doing his solo record and Dave was developing a new play following his success on Broadway, I worked on this album."

“Then they all came round and started playing on what became the songs... and here we are.”

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"I'm going to sit on a beach for August, which is usually what I do, and come September figure out what's next," Bon Jovi tells Billboard.com. Some possibilities? "A smaller-sounding solo record
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Old 11-07-2018, 12:16 AM
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RD You're really stretching here...it's all just speculation on your part. Jon actually said he recorded those soundtrack songs on his iPhone and then with a completely different band! ie. No Tico.

Honestly, I think you'd try and convince us that blue is black. All this just because I said that i thought I rememebered Tico being called back to work for WAN demos (which judging by Jon's quote was the case), and you thought it was to help Jon with his solo album (there's been no quote anywhere confirming that Jon asked Tico to help with his solo stuff, in fact the only quotes we have confirm the exact oppostive, that it wasn't Tico on the solo tracks he did record...)

I know that Jon said he wanted to do a solo record, that quote you posted proved that, but he'd clearly changed his mind a year later when he asked Tico to come back to work.

The point you're arguing now isn't even what we were discussing!

As far as Richie being overworked, Jon said they were going to take time off after the tour, we know this for a fact! He also admited that he "lied" and started work straight away on new material. Tico was obviously not happy about this, he "needed a life", this we know from the above quote! Why is that so hard to believe that Richie was unhappy with Jon's change of heart too?

I'm done with this. You will always clearly only ever believe your own fantasies, no matter what proof you are offered.
Today was fun. A complete was of time, but fun!

Personally, I really wish Jon had gone forward with the solo record instead of WAN, I think we would have got some of his most insightful material for a long time...
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Old 11-07-2018, 01:05 AM
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RD You're really stretching here...it's all just speculation on your part. Jon actually said he recorded those soundtrack songs on his iPhone and then with a completely different band! ie. No Tico.

Honestly, I think you'd try and convince us that blue is black. All this just because I said that i thought I rememebered Tico being called back to work for WAN demos (which judging by Jon's quote was the case), and you thought it was to help Jon with his solo album (there's been no quote anywhere confirming that Jon asked Tico to help with his solo stuff, in fact the only quotes we have confirm the exact oppostive, that it wasn't Tico on the solo tracks he did record...)

I know that Jon said he wanted to do a solo record, that quote you posted proved that, but he'd clearly changed his mind a year later when he asked Tico to come back to work.

The point you're arguing now isn't even what we were discussing!

As far as Richie being overworked, Jon said they were going to take time off after the tour, we know this for a fact! He also admited that he "lied" and started work straight away on new material. Tico was obviously not happy about this, he "needed a life", this we know from the above quote! Why is that so hard to believe that Richie was unhappy with Jon's change of heart too?

I'm done with this. You will always clearly only ever believe your own fantasies, no matter what proof you are offered.
Today was fun. A complete was of time, but fun!

Personally, I really wish Jon had gone forward with the solo record instead of WAN, I think we would have got some of his most insightful material for a long time...
I agree it's pointless but it is fun to unravel these things... Final Thoughts.

Old Habits was written three months prior to Not Running...

Jon wrote Old Habits when he got the script and then he wrote Not Running when he was on set and the producer said he could use another song.

I guess the final question is, did Tico play on Old Habits? And what month did Tico rejoin the band? It's just more for curiosity and knowledge at this point.
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:16 AM
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Bottom line, MY theory is 100% right: Rdkopper's actually very similar to JBJ, HE IS IMPOSSIBLE!!!! hihihih -_-
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I have always thought that Tico does not play on the Because We Can studio track.
Its just my opinion.
Im a drummer because of Tico.
I know his way of playing perfectly and since the first listening I hear something "different"
Then,when I saw him playing it live,I confirmed that.
Again,its my opinion.
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I have always thought that Tico does not play on the Because We Can studio track.
Its just my opinion.
Im a drummer because of Tico.
I know his way of playing perfectly and since the first listening I hear something "different"
Then,when I saw him playing it live,I confirmed that.
Again,its my opinion.
I'm actually not sure either Tico, David or Richie played on that track. It's so random that it could've been Jon, John and a drum machine/studio musician.

I also think that on This Is Love, This Is Life it's a drum computer.

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I agree it's pointless but it is fun to unravel these things... Final Thoughts.

Old Habits was written three months prior to Not Running...

Jon wrote Old Habits when he got the script and then he wrote Not Running when he was on set and the producer said he could use another song.

I guess the final question is, did Tico play on Old Habits? And what month did Tico rejoin the band? It's just more for curiosity and knowledge at this point.
At 21:40 Jon says when he started writing a month after the tour, he was working with Shanks.


The first week of Feb in 2012, Jon was featured on CBS Person to Person. We can guess it was filmed some time in Jan 2012. In the clip, Jon is shown in the studio singing along to a track. That track is WAN - a song he and Shanks wrote. A band song, not a solo song.

https://facebook.com/story.php?story...photo.php&_rdr

Tico was going through marital issues. His divorce wasn't finalized until Aug 2012, so who knows when he was ready to go back to work.
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The recording (including the drums) of BWC is well documented here:

https://www.soundonsound.com/people/...what-about-now
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The recording (including the drums) of BWC is well documented here:

https://www.soundonsound.com/people/...what-about-now
In my opinion, this screenshot of the mixing session (while being an interesting article to read) shows everything that's wrong with the current Bon Jovi album production these days.
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