Richie Sambora!!!

Which is exactly what i have been saying the whole time...

I just asked about the "famous face", as I was literally listening to the bootleg today, and was curious what other people's opinion on this was...

Apologies for have a bringing up a discussion on a discussion forum...

Because as fans it's fun to discuss these types of things with other fans! Again, that's what a forum like this is for. If you don't get that I don't know why you come here...

And if we didn't have discusssions like this, this place would be deader than dead!

Thanks Jackie, that's really interesting! Yes, it does seem that he often writes about several things in one song, or at least writes in a way that can be interpeted by the listener in a few different ways....I did feel that some of the lyrics lean more to the band situation, and after Caps explaination I can certainly see how some would refer to Heather...

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I think the "famous face" is Jon Bon Jovi.

and again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP29...outu.be&t=3752

Yeah there's no doubt at all what Take Me is about...

I take *everything* that's said in public with a grain of salt. I agree that just because an artist says something doesn't make it true; but that doesn't mean it has to be a lie, either. I try to practice healthy skepticism and weigh what is said against other things I know (or they've said) to draw conclusions; and then keep in mind that a "conclusion" is the best I can get without being in their skin or, at the very least, being in their immediate circle.

As much as I'd like to know what really happened, I've never expected that we'd be told; or that we'd be able to "figure out" anything by discussing it. But it's obviously on people's minds; and some still find it interesting to discuss. At least, now, there's a place to do that where those who aren't interested can skip over the whole thing without fear of missing any "news".

I disagree about an artist's ability to create multilayered literature, and speak The Truth at the same time. I believe that's entirely possible through their art and in interviews; but it's a matter of choice.

From what I remember, this seems to be overkill.

Rehab 2011 seemed fairly successful as rehabs go. He finished the TC/GH tour strong and immediately began working on AOTL.

At the 2012 i-Heart show, the general consensus was that Jon seemed sick or like he was phoning it in; but Richie was on fire. Same with the first leg of the BWC tour.

Without checking, I have vague memories of some erratic performances in late 2014; but the first I clearly remember where people began seeing a difference was the Oct 2016 shows in Oz and opening for Bad Co. It was even later with the “mad handling of Ori” and slurred speech you refer to.

Unless you can be more specific than “half of Lost Highway promos” that Jon had to do alone because Richie in rehab, I don’t buy it. That sounds like your “power-phrasing” to me.

I remember the Unplugged and the Puerto Rico concert right after that.

The only American Idol show I found that he wasn’t on was the show where Jon and David were mentoring the contestants, and he was there for the band performance the next night, iirc. Is that the one you’re talking about?

What else did he miss?

His decline begin in 2014 when he did go on tour with Orianthi.
In this video () he seemed perfectly fine to me and a few weeks later he turned up in Australia and was a mess.
It had to do something with her I think.
In my opinion Richie has still a great voice (remember last year when he performed One Night of Peace) and when he gets his act together I am sure he can get back to his 2012 level.

There was a major change between Musician Institute + ASCAP in January and Australia in February, let alone Europe in summer. Still fantastic voice, but he was’nt the same person.