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Old 04-26-2024, 07:24 PM
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The melody is alright at times. Don't like sound. His voice is still sounding awesome but there is some autotune there for sure.

Still sounds a lot better than Jon
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Old 04-26-2024, 07:43 PM
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I’m not sure about the song. As others have said, it’s messy and the vocals must seem a bit lost in the music.
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Old 04-26-2024, 08:06 PM
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So the thing: WAN album, Shanks was true…
Yep seems so.
I hate shanks even more now

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Old 04-26-2024, 09:00 PM
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Shanks isn't going anywhere.


are these lyrics about jon?

So many people just spend their days
just holier than thou
if you conjure up compassion
Then we can work it out
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Old 04-26-2024, 10:09 PM
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Shanks isn't going anywhere.


are these lyrics about jon?

So many people just spend their days
just holier than thou
if you conjure up compassion
Then we can work it out
To vague to say.
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Old 04-27-2024, 11:09 AM
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So it was about Shanks and guitar parts they did without Richie. Guitar parts turned into, songs, songs turned into album.

Richie said it out loud - "That doesn't sound like Bon Jovi". And there it was. It was all downhill from there. Jon ignored it. That's why he feels guilty and can't get over it yet.

The only thing that rubs me is - why is Richie sending a message (in recent interviews) that he would return and "they have to do it", if in reality he doesn't want to.

Seems like Jon indeed keeps the doors open. Maybe there's a condition that he needs to get rid of Shanks. Richie should say it out loud.
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Old 04-27-2024, 01:31 PM
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So it was about Shanks and guitar parts they did without Richie. Guitar parts turned into, songs, songs turned into album.

Richie said it out loud - "That doesn't sound like Bon Jovi". And there it was. It was all downhill from there. Jon ignored it. That's why he feels guilty and can't get over it yet.

The only thing that rubs me is - why is Richie sending a message (in recent interviews) that he would return and "they have to do it", if in reality he doesn't want to.

Seems like Jon indeed keeps the doors open. Maybe there's a condition that he needs to get rid of Shanks. Richie should say it out loud.
The timeline is muddy. But Richie was saying last year he wanted back in, or at least making it clear that was the case. Went as far as to suggest ongoing talks, claims that Jon would be stupid not to, etc. It seems the second interview with him in the documentary happened after that or around the same time.

Something went wrong in-between those interviews. Perhaps the door is not as open as Jon says, Richie found that out and is now, "great, I am out". Maybe Jon was trying to force things on Richie he does not want. For example, he has no hand in the writing process anymore. Maybe Richie tried to say its him or Shanks and Jon chose Shanks. Perhaps Richie overplayed his own hand with unworkable demands.

Jon says he and Richie watched the three episodes together. So, they have/had more of a relationship than both admit. There were rumors Richie left that viewing unhappy with his portrayal. I do not believe that idea because the most interesting thing is even in the interview he gives, he does not deny Jon, David, Tico's side of the story.

Also, the documentary highlights WAN as something like a final straw. Making His addictions and seemingly legitimate desire to spend more time with his daughter are also there, and again Richie never denies this. The funny thing is, all the theories we have flown around have been confirmed as mostly all being true.

At least Jon admits it was his mistake that ultimately led to Richie leaving. At least in terms of not seeing the problem increasing, or ignoring it.
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Old 04-27-2024, 02:59 PM
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So it was about Shanks and guitar parts they did without Richie. Guitar parts turned into, songs, songs turned into album.

Richie said it out loud - "That doesn't sound like Bon Jovi". And there it was. It was all downhill from there. Jon ignored it. That's why he feels guilty and can't get over it yet.

The only thing that rubs me is - why is Richie sending a message (in recent interviews) that he would return and "they have to do it", if in reality he doesn't want to.

Seems like Jon indeed keeps the doors open. Maybe there's a condition that he needs to get rid of Shanks. Richie should say it out loud.
That's what we've been asking since then, even before then. Get rid of this filthy dude. Don't get me started, even seeing him on stage he looks awkward and so ****ing cringe.

Shanks sucks, it's a reality. Twitter was heavily talking about it at some point.

If Shanks gets fired, maybe we can talk about a decent album again.

It's like he cast a spell on Jon or smth.
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Old 04-27-2024, 03:30 PM
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Jon, David, and Tico mostly speak of Richie with respect and even warmth in the documentary. I think it is fair to say it looks like what they all say, Richie included, about not hating each other is true.

I remember being a bit suspect of some remarks Shanks made about the Richie situation, like somethings that were passive aggressive. I can't remember what it was though.
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Old 04-27-2024, 04:30 PM
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Shanks commenting on Richie was aggressive during the documentary
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