Richie says European audiences are way better than American audiences

Aloha !

No he doesn't. I'm sure you'd like to think so after a long day, but it's not true. In several countries of South America people work more hours than America, and it's not as if those crowds are known for being lazy or slow. Canada, Portugal, Austria, Japan and Mexico are all ahead of you, and none of those crowds have a reputation of being terrible either.

Well yeah, but they're known songs because people listen to the albums here as opposed to being focussed on what's on the radio. And although it is part of culture there, it's also something that shows itself in a lot of things in America. I have to say that this is changing slowly nowadays though in Europe as well with the arrival of iTunes and the likes, but of those 1.500 people in Amsterdam I doubt anyone knew These Days from radio play, yet everyone knew the words.

Erm, most people need to drive 1,5 hour after a show is finished in Holland as well. I went to see U2 in Amsterdam, started at 5 in the morning that day, concert was finished at 11 in the evening, was home at 1:30am and got up at 5 the next day.

I'm not the only one who does this, it's a common thing in Europe as well. Although Americans do work longer shifts than Europeans (due to a lower hour rate) it's no excuse really to show no interest in the artist. It's not as if concerts in a weekend have better crowds there. And although people in Europe also leave during the encore break it's not a common thing, while it's perfectly normal in America.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1533555.html

Why do Americans work 30 percent more than Europeans?

It has a lot to do with America's lower tax rates and higher divorce rates, which combined account for 58 percent of the difference in hours worked, according to a new study. (H/t The New York Times' Binyamin Appelbaum.)

Men in the U.S. work more than men in Europe in part because European tax rates are largely higher and more progressive than American tax rates. In other words, in Europe, the more money a worker makes, the more they pay in taxes, which may reduce an employee's incentive to work more, the researchers argue.

As for women, American women work more than women in Europe in part because the divorce rate is higher in the U.S., the study found. The increased likelihood of divorce in America accounts for 24 percent of the difference in hours worked among women. The study's authors argue that since the guarantee of a husband's income is less stable in the U.S., American women are pressured to gain work experience to be able to survive on their own.

Americans work longer hours, take fewer vacation days, and retire later than workers in the rest of the developed world, including Japan, according to ABC News. Americans work nearly 10 weeks per year more than Germans, according to OECD data cited by Mother Jones.

There are a few other factors that may help explain why Europeans work less than Americans. Labor unions are more powerful in Europe than in the U.S., so they're able to get employers to agree to shorter work days and longer vacations for their workers. Western European countries also offer more generous unemployment benefits, which may reduce the incentive for some jobless people to look for work.

This!
I was thinking of South America too. And everyone knows they tend to be amazing audience wise over there!

Should have phrased my comment to say Americans work more than Europeans. No disrespect towards our South American board members, but what the hell goes on down there is not normal to me anyway. Go to Disney World and see the behavior of people from South America. You'd swear they were raised in zoos.

Excuse me but how is any of this relevant to what we're talking about? If we're gonna start talking about general behavoiur of different nationalities.. well to be honest, let's not!

Well, that was pretty disrespectful. Maybe certain cultures on the whole just tend to enjoy themselves a bit more openly? Or are passionate more about the things they like, whether it be music, football, art etc? It doesn't have to be an economic thing, for example Irish, Canadian, German crowds are often very receptive, where as other audiences are just different. Like in Japan, the culture is very different and although they may not be as 'rowdy' as other fans, I do not doubt their commitment. However, in America there are several different factor contributing to the general attitude prevailing over there, which several people have mentioned.

And I also agree with a lot of what Supersonic says in his post.


andi

Bullshit. Plain and simple.

Over here, the main negative thing you could say is the leaving early "to beat the traffic" crowd which effects football matches and concerts alike.

Right. Is this some weird form of Spinal Tap? Debasing stereotypical value judgements based on visits to freakin' Disney World? Really? That's what it comes down to?

Aloha !

Erm, this might sound odd to some but I gotta defend danfan (and other Americans) on his comment about working more than Europeans. Americans do work longer hours, the hour rate is way lower over there and they do a lot of unpaid work as well. In America you do need to work harder for your cash than in most European countries, it's just the truth. Obviously there's exceptions there as well but I've seen and heard the stories there first hand, he's got a point there in regards to being more tired and making longer days.

It's just that it's no excuse for the behavior of crowds over there. Americans work more hours than most Europeans, but there's still exceptions in Europe like Portugal, for example, and yet that country had one of the best crowds of the last tour.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Very true. And also, it doesnt make it relevant or acceptable to attack certain nationalities' 'behaviour' or whatnot in other situations.