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Old 08-17-2010, 06:24 PM
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To those who are going after Jon for holding Richie back: Take a look (or listen) to his side projects/soundtrack songs Take Me On, One Last Goodbye. If Richie truly was dis-satisfied with his role in the band, you'd think they'd have "big long epic solos" or something. Richie is just to blame or credit for wanting to go in the pop direction as Jon is.
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Old 08-17-2010, 06:37 PM
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I think the original solo on WWBTF was more than enough evidence that Richie has got lazy,
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To those who are going after Jon for holding Richie back: Take a look (or listen) to his side projects/soundtrack songs Take Me On, One Last Goodbye. If Richie truly was dis-satisfied with his role in the band, you'd think they'd have "big long epic solos" or something. Richie is just to blame or credit for wanting to go in the pop direction as Jon is.
Dude, don't waste your time. Nothing will happen, some people here are still going to hate Jon and blame him about everything that's not so good about Bon Jovi.

About Richie I got this to say. I went to see this band for the first time twice in O2. And I had a fantastic time both nights. But I was a little dissapointed with two things. First, I didn't hear some of the songs I wanted and expected (Always, Dry County, Love's The Only Rule being my most desired of that list) and the other dissapointment was Richie. The Richie I saw at those two shows was not guitar hero. The Richie I saw was a lazy guitar player. Instead of being energetic and entertaining the crowd, he was just standing there and would only step a couple steps to the center of this stage when it was time to do a solo in a middle of the song. He'd just do the carbon copy of the studio version of a solo without extensions just with orgasm facials, get a little ovation from the crowd and just go back to his corner. And that repeated song after song after song. He just digs the easy way out nowadays to get a good reaction from the crowd with the least effort. And I know he's 51 right now, but that's no excuse to being a lazy son of a bitch during concerts. Let's imagine that he was told by Jon not to do extended solos and don't take the spotlight away from him. But then he'd be energetic, running arround the stage like he did in the old days. But no, he's just standing in the right side of the stage. And you can easily see in the proshot performance of Dry County from O2 - during Richie's big solo, Jon was just standing in the corner of the stage giving all the spotlight to Richie.
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Saying 'take a break's all very well and good but this band doesn't have long left. If you want them to take a break, it's the beginning of the end.
Bullsh*t, if Bon Jovi was anything near dying, as you claim, they would've been long gone already. If they could survive Bounce, they can survive anything. There's no passion or real inspiration, because they're tapped dry creatively. They just need a break, that's all. Some of you people can be so cynical sometimes, geez.
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Dude, don't waste your time. Nothing will happen, some people here are still going to hate Jon and blame him about everything that's not so good about Bon Jovi.
When you're the CEO, the good and the bad falls on you and that would be Jon. And he can be just as lazy of a twat as Richie can be and Richie is lazy.

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Instead of being energetic and entertaining the crowd, he was just standing there and would only step a couple steps to the center of this stage when it was time to do a solo in a middle of the song. He'd just do the carbon copy of the studio version of a solo without extensions just with orgasm facials, get a little ovation from the crowd and just go back to his corner. And that repeated song after song after song. He just digs the easy way out nowadays to get a good reaction from the crowd with the least effort. And I know he's 51 right now, but that's no excuse to being a lazy son of a bitch during concerts. Let's imagine that he was told by Jon not to do extended solos and don't take the spotlight away from him. But then he'd be energetic, running arround the stage like he did in the old days. But no, he's just standing in the right side of the stage. And you can easily see in the proshot performance of Dry County from O2 - during Richie's big solo, Jon was just standing in the corner of the stage giving all the spotlight to Richie.
Now you're just being all the opposite of what most people are with Jon. First of all, when Richie was still great in the 90s, he hardly even moved, ran or jumped. Sure he put more emotion and seemed to care more but even when you look at the KTF tour, occasionally he went out on the side catwalks. The only time he really ran past that was LYHOM on the CR tour.

Second, are you shitting me? Dry County is hardly the song you really run around to if you get my drift. Bad example.

His laziness in his playing is much more annoying than him staying put for the most part.
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When/where did he say this ? :O
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Anyone care to name even half a dozen bands that can sell out stadiums these days that have big, long guitar solos in them?

Muse is the only one I can think of and even then, Matt's big solos are all on album tracks nowadays.
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Anyone care to name even half a dozen bands that can sell out stadiums these days that have big, long guitar solos in them?

Muse is the only one I can think of and even then, Matt's big solos are all on album tracks nowadays.
Obviously it's incredibly predictable of me but Neil Young headlined Glastonbury and Hyde Park last year and his setlist included Spirit Road, Words, F*!#in' Up, Down By The River, Rockin' In The Free World and A Day In The Life, all of which went on for 6+ minutes with long guitar solos.

So that brings us to 2.
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Bullsh*t, if Bon Jovi was anything near dying, as you claim, they would've been long gone already. If they could survive Bounce, they can survive anything. There's no passion or real inspiration, because they're tapped dry creatively. They just need a break, that's all. Some of you people can be so cynical sometimes, geez.
Yeah, that's what I meant!

Not the fact that they're all very old now, and with a Greatest Hits tour coming up, they don't have long left. You're so bloody cynical yourself.
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Obviously it's incredibly predictable of me but Neil Young headlined Glastonbury and Hyde Park last year and his setlist included Spirit Road, Words, F*!#in' Up, Down By The River, Rockin' In The Free World and A Day In The Life, all of which went on for 6+ minutes with long guitar solos.

So that brings us to 2.
And I have to say I almost fell asleep during RITFW. What a boring, pointless bit of guitar noodling.
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