Roulette - the hit the coulda been?

jovifan93 · #11 01-25-2014, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic

Aloha !

The first two albums are more consistant than anything that's been released the past 15 years. Would the production not be working against it for most people, they'd consider them masterpieces. Unfortunately, most people don't hear good songs, but hear dated production.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

I wasn't talking about the production, but the songs. For me, even the production on Slippery sounds dated, the first well produced album IMO is New Jersey. I just don't like most of the songs of the first two, they're not as catchy as the "big hits" that came later...

bonjovi90 · #12 01-25-2014, 06:48 PM

I always considered the first album as one with quite catchy tunes on it. Stuck with me from the first listen. Plus, musically, this and Fahrenheit beat the crap out of What About Now

belgium_BON_JOVI_fan · #13 01-25-2014, 07:35 PM

I always had a soft spot for fahrenheit, the keyboards are pretty high in the mix, that and the guitars.. it maybe somewhat depressing lyrical wise, but it hits the right spot sometimes...

Back on topic get ready should've been second...

KTF,

Nick

Alphavictim · #14 01-25-2014, 07:47 PM

There's no obvious second single on that album.

Get Ready sucks, Roulette is not bad. Other than Runaway, my favorites by far are Shot Through the Heart and Burning For Love... but I get why the label wanted to release She Don't Know Me. It IS the poppiest track on the album.

Rdkopper · #15 01-25-2014, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic

Aloha !

The second single of the debut record was supposed to be Breakout, a song with another keyboard hook. Plans changed once Bee Gee's Staying Alive was released and disco was suddenly very popular, thus She Don't Know Me being released as the second single, attempting to cross over both markets.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Where in the world did you pull up this bit of info? This might be your worst post to date. Were you hacked?

Seb,
Disco was a late 70s thing. Staying Alive was released in 1977. The movie Staying Alive was released in 83 which was a poor sequal to Saturday Night Fever.

Rdkopper · #16 01-25-2014, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic

Aloha !

The first two albums are more consistant than anything that's been released the past 15 years. Would the production not be working against it for most people, they'd consider them masterpieces. Unfortunately, most people don't hear good songs, but hear dated production.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

One of your best posts to date.couldn't agree more

danfan · #17 01-27-2014, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic

Aloha !

The second single of the debut record was supposed to be Breakout, a song with another keyboard hook. Plans changed once Bee Gee's Staying Alive was released and disco was suddenly very popular, thus She Don't Know Me being released as the second single, attempting to cross over both markets.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Staying Alive was released in 1977. I really don't think it had much impact on what was being released in 1984. Bon Jovi were being marketed more to Quiet Riot than the Bee Gees.

RonJovi · #18 01-27-2014, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by hackster73

Great track but if released back then as a single it would have made no difference to the bands success. It would still be ignored live like most of the early music. They have always made odd single choices.

Roulette
Edge of a broken heart
The radio saved my life tonight
Hearts breaking even
Just older
Mystery train
Undivided
Bounce
Dirty little secret
Nothing
We got it goin on
Any other day
Love's the only rule
Thorn in my side
Im with you
Thick as thieves
Beautiful world

These all could have been single choices and I am sure most would have come across well...

Was thinking about this on the way into work this morning. Their single choices up to 2000 were actually pretty spot on. There was little on SWW that would have been huge besides what they released (IDFY maybe), same with NJ (Blood on Blood or WITW maybe) but I don't think they'd have done much more than the singles they released.

However, post 2000 they've made some very odd choices. Maybe nothing on the albums would have made a massive difference but they certainly haven't released the best or the most radio friendly songs in my view off of any post 2000 album.

GabrielC · #19 01-28-2014, 04:13 AM

Wild is the Wind would not be a good choice for a single. I think Stick to Your Guns is more fitting.

bounce442 · #20 01-28-2014, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GabrielC

Wild is the Wind would not be a good choice for a single. I think Stick to Your Guns is more fitting.

Wild is the Wind is my favorite track of Jersey but I agree... I doubt it would have made a great single, especially with all the other made for radio hits on that album.

I like Stick to Your Guns, but I think it would have been a big mistake releasing it as a single. New Jersey as a whole is Slippery 2.0 and there's not a song on that album more of a carbon copy than STYG. Again, it's a good song, but Wanted was special.

The only song that wasn't released on NJ that I think could have been successful as a single is Blood on Blood.

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