sebastain bach

Im sorry but if you read the lyrics of 18 and life, its got Jon and Richie written all over it. Funny how SR never wrote anything anywhere near the quality of the songs on their debut album...

Well that´s subjetive. IMO songs like Wasted Time or In A Darkened Room is as good as I Remember You and 18 And Life. You know there´s a lot of one hit wonder-bands or bands that in the beginning wrote a couple of good songs that they later could never outdo. Still that doesn´t mean that Jon and Richie wrote them. That´s hardly any proof.

But, why do you think they were deceived and didn't know what they were signing? That's ridiculous and makes the members of Skid Row sound like total morons. Without having the full story from Jon and Richie who have never publicly spoken about the situation, I don't see how you can just take Sebastians side of the story as gospel.

They signed a shitty deal but I think all members knew full well that they were signing away publishing rights to get immediate exposure which translated to immediate success.

deb

the same thing is valid for your statements. based on what Sebastian Bach said you decide Jon and Rich haven't screwed them over. If you consider the whole situation, it is definitely smelly because it is hard to imagine that a WHOLE band(it is only Sebs now but it was all of Skid Row back in the day) would suddenly make such accusations.
Obviously, Jon and Rich and Doc McGhee saw the talent in Skid Row, saw that they were newbees and had no idea about buisness and decided to screw them over. The Skids have probably signed something(although that would be another sign that Jon and Rich were NOT ghostwriters otherwise they would have hardly made a contract out of it). Well, this is called NAIVITY. They have been punished for being NAIVE. If your ethics say it's fine, then fine. I am sure though, if it wasn't for Bon Jovi being the "bad guys" most of the people who defend them would actually bash them.

Once more, I don't give a shit if Bon Jovi screwed Skid Row. Good for them, shows that Jon and Richie are clever buisness man. I just find it pathetic how people here defend them for no reason other then being a fan.

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really? like what Bon Jovi song was anything SIMILAR to 18 and Life?n I can't think of any. I remember you sounds more like Home Sweet Home than I'll Be There For You. In addition, SKID ROW wrote A LOT OF STUFF which is WAY better than their debut. Check out SLAVE TO THE GRIND which is lyrically and musically a masterpiece.

Your statement is a biased personal judgement Carli. Nothing more. And it is not FUNNY because it is not TRUE!

Have a nice evening!

Skid Row, all of them signed this contract. Was it a good contract for them financially??? Not particularly, but most first contracts for unsigned bands are crappy, ask the Goo Goo Dolls. These guys got to expose their music to the biggest crowds on the biggest stages right off the bat, no playing in shitty clubs empty theaters etc..... what is that worth??? By all accounts everything they had from the instruments they played to the clothes they wore got paid for by Jon and Richie. I can say for sure that Baz and compnay sure did live out on the road like they were the biggest band in the world which accounts for alot of the money Baz later accused Jon of ripping him off for.

As for who wrote the songs, no one will ever know for sure unless Jon and or Richie choses to say at some point. I do however find it curious that Skid Row could never come up with two songs that had anywhere near the playability or single potential as those first two.


If you get the chance watch the whole Super Group series. If you do you will see the exact reason Baz is not successful, and it has nothing to do with JBJ.

Well someone just has to ask at the meet and greets then ..

Yeah I agree. Slave is much better than their first album. It´s one of the best rock-albums ever IMO!

You seemed to have skipped the part where I've said, "they signed a shitty deal". That statment would mean I thought they did get screwed and Snake admits it. And it was ONE record. Sure, they were naive, they were all young and wanted big success and didn't care what price they paid for it. But, that said, Snake is past it, so why is Seb still talking about it 15 years later. And as Snake said, it's not like they made NO money. Seb was not smart with his money and just blew it.

deb

Oh come on, that's total bollocks! What hits did Bon Jovi have in the US after New Jersey? Maybe Always. The days of hard rock were over when Slave to the Grind came out. Skid Row is even regarded as the last hair metal band. Also, they tried to be a bit more heavy afterwards. But you can not say that songs like In A Darkened Room or Wasted Time or Quicksand Jesus aren't at least just as good as I Remember You. Different circumstnces account for different success levels. If they had played Grunge than they might have made it.

He is not successful because he is an idiot, I agree. Does that say anything about Jon and Richie ripping him off? Most probably NOT!