I don't think they're absolute shit. There are definately far worse bands out there, but I do see your point. I think muscially like you say a lot of the hair metal bands are more talented than perhaps Nivana were, purley on an instrumental point of view. I guess a lot of people liked the Nirvana stuff because it was something different and it provided a change to what was around at the time. I have to admit I do like the dark mysterious aura that they give off as a band, but I do think they're overated. I don't dislike Nirvana but I certainly rate Bon Jovi's 90s albums a lot higher than anything they released.