Shanks - good or bad?

that's bullshit. I doubt there is ANY producer in this world that would actually turn down Bon Jovi. Not to mention that he worked with bands like Offspring or Papa Roach. I'd actually like him to produce the new Jovi record. Devils and Dust is one of my fave Springsteen albums and it reminds me somehow of These Days.

As of John Shanks...are you ****in' kiddin' me? I have friends who'd do a better job. The band itself would do a better job. Worst producer Jovi worked with after Luke Ebbin.

I'd actually like Rick Rubin to produce it. He'd be someone who could give the band a bit of a kick in the butt, add a new touch to the record. But noooo....Bon jovi are the type of band which goes with "if it ain't broke why fix it?!"...and unfortunately "ain't broke= sells shitloads" in Bon jovi terminology.

[Bon jovi are the type of band which goes with "if it ain't broke why fix it?!"...and unfortunately "ain't broke= sells shitloads" in Bon jovi terminology.[/QUOTE]

Bon Jovi wont fix anything because it sells albums not to the fans but to the followers since Crush. Crush and IML put Bon Jovi back on the map to the younger generation (1990- now). Crush was hailed as a successful comeback for the band. Bounce while it was crap for the most part kept the younger fans intact that they got from crush with Everyday being in Madden 2003. Teens like to litsen to what is popular from that game and the bands on Madden are usually popular. So Bon Jovi got more young fans. HAND and LH was a carbon copy of Crush and the same fans that bought Crush bought those albums. In short Bon Jovi wont fix anything until they start to loose money on sales but Pop/Rock albums sell nowadays and they are good at even if long time Jovi fans dont like it.

Shanks is shit. I could do a better job at producing the records than him. Guitars up, vocals that actually sound like a real person (not too overproduced, backing vocals should be clearly heard harmonies by the rest of the band, not these "50 people singing roughly the same melody" harmonies they insist on doing on all their albums now), plenty of solos, lots of drum fills, proper keyboards (You can barely hear Dave on Lost Highway FFS), just make their records sound like they're made by an actual band again. Easy peasy.

Yes, easy peasy for us. But I doubt Jovi will see the light with this album to come. I just wish they would get rid of the guy!

I am very happy bout Lost Highway. I love the songs and the production of the first 6 songs. 7, 8 and the rest (except for 'till we ain't strangers anymore) is less good. The songs are all ok, but production-wise the quality goes down a bit after track 6.

Hand sounds impressive compared to e.g. Bounce, but is produced a bit to over-rock.
It comes out great of your speakers but there's is not much detail. It's like it's produced very quickly. Not much effort put in it to give some added value.

Shanks for impressive sound: 8/10
Shanks for production overall on LH : 7 / 10
Shanks for production overall on HAND : 5 / 10

I would love them to work with BOB Rock again.
I really wonder what he'd bring to BJ anno 2009.
KTF was really great back in 92.

Otherwise, why not lend daniel Lanois from U2?
It might give Jovi a push for the next decade .. the jovi 2010 sound.

Elvistico

no no no no no no no no NO!

They could do with Steve Albini and his 'anti-production' style. Then again, he'd probably refuse them

5 individuals or not... KTF was a brilliant album.
Bob Rock is probably tough to work with cause he's like a very hard teacher. It does not have to be fun, it has to be good.

On a further note: don't forget that KTF was largely written by Jon. So it's obviously less of a band album in the strict sense of writing together.

I still raise my hand for Bob Rock. Nothing wrong with someone who's a little hard on Jovi. Or would this give ego problems between Jon and Bob?

As a producer Shanks is very good at what he does i.e give bands that Radio Friendly Sound.
But personally I think he compresses the shit out of everything.I also think he uses to much effects like reverb phasing etc

I would love to see what Rick Rubin would have gotten out of the band or Brian Eno for that matter.As with Coldplay he tired alot of different things like bringing them to a church in spain to try get a different feeling from them he has also managed to get U2 to come up with interesting things on No Line on the Horizon

I think the same Producer for 3 albums in a row is a bad idea though

Well, to be COMPLETELY fair, this is his first album time producing the whole thing. I see your point, though.