NO!!. i have to admit i was a little apprehensive as to wether they can still create that BON JOVI experience, BUT that was before the MANCHESTER GIG, they rocked, there was no doubt about it. the age range of the audience was massive, my 9 year old son was blown away by the experience of 60'000 odd people all singing along together. there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that they are still the greatest live band going. you say they lack motivation, you could see jon feeding of the audience, he was motivated allright. as for the records. i think HAND is a great album. better than BOUNCE or CRUSH