Starting all over again

That's not the first time I've heard that and that fan is also very resourceful. When he says B-sides he's generalizing. B-Sides, Demos, Bootlegs, Etc. Even if he was talking about NJ, what NJ b-sides were released?

After GnR had their success with UUI 1&2, Jon's ego knew he was bigger and could do better with a double release because they were the bigger band. Bob Rock was signed up and they were ready to go. However, I'm not sure what the depth of it was meaning, I'm not sure if Jon just nonchalantly wanted to do one or if the record company was on board for one but they wrote a shit load of songs.

Why else would there be so many finished / almost finished recording from that era? More than any other.

Here is a list and I believe there were a ton more that we never even heard.

Billy
Every Beat Of My Heart
Fields Of Fire
Love Ain't Nothing But A Four Letter Word
Miss Fourth Of July
Revenge (became Keep The Faith)
Starting All Over Again
Sympathy
Taking It Back
The Radio Saved My Life Tonight
The Right To Walk Away (became Bed Of Roses)
The Sole Truth
The Fire inside
Why Aren't You Dead
Diamond Ring (could have been included)



On a side note, I never knew Jon and Richie had a hand in Cher's I Found Someone as he stated but I looked it up and it is confirmed.

Not exactly, since the unused demos from New Jersey weren't used as b-sides. However, I've also never ever heard about KTF having been supposed to become a double album.

I'm also calling bullshit on this:

I never heard that KTF was suppose to be a double CD. So that was two CD's in a row that never became a double disc (New Jersey and Keep The Faith) I know that definitely for New Jersey and during that period, they could have gotten away with it because everything that Bon Jovi touched at that time turned to gold. Keep The Faith came a few years later and when grunge had hit, Bon Jovi were not the darlings of rock anymore. I don't think they had any intentions to bring out a double disc CD.

Also... Diamond Ring "could've been released"? It was a NJ demo. Going by that logic, ALL the tracks demoed prior to KTF could've been used.

Maybe the confusion on that site is due to the NJ/KTF Demos bootleg, which has all the NJ demos?

That's not logic... It's a fact that Diamond Ring was written for NJ and then shelved. It was then revisited for KTF and then shelved again.

That doesn't make any sense. The leftover tracks would have to mean what was worked on for the proposed double album so it wouldn't mean bootlegs. KTF's extra tracks weren't released until TD, like Seb said, and the rest came out on the boxset, which was released 10 years after this FAQ was compiled.

Just based on the facts, I could totally see KTF intending to be a double CD.

First off, whoever did this Q&A really knew their shit and was spot on with the rest of the information so I'm not going to rule that out. If he was talking about NJ, he wouldn't have said, "They didn't think the record would sell." That person knew and answered those questions a little too perfectly. During that time, the internet didn't exist like it does today so information like that didn't come easy. That was someone interviewing someone on the inside or someone who worked on the inside.

Facts:

Bed Of Roses & The Soul Truth were performed at the Red Bank Charity show in December of 1991. That gives us a timeline as to when the KTF project started.

During that time in 1991, 80s bands were still charting and although grunge was in the picture, it didn't fully takeover just yet.

Jon was a song-writing machine back then.

Jon had yet to fail at anything he put his vocals to prior

There were approx 20+ additional songs that were completed or near completion prior to the release. Real songs like Miss 4th of July which was near completion. Unlike demos such as The End.


I think Jon went into this with the intention of a BIG comeback. New look, new sound, and he wanted to do it with a double CD. He came to the table with a shit load of songs and probably could have pulled it off 3 months prior. He just missed the mark and the record company saw the future and said "F That, 1 Disc Johnny"

Also, just out of curiosity where was it ever stated that NJ was supposed to be a double CD? I heard that hear a while ago but never officially.

I honestly don't think that is true. There really weren't enough songs leftover to fill a double CD, the quality of them weren't that exceptional (song writing), and they didn't even have time to make a quality double CD because NJ was so rushed going into it.

I think someone stated that because of the NJ Demo release but it's not true.

Lots of songs does NOT equal a double album.

And just because you "could totally see" Keep the Faith being a double album doesn't mean that's what it actually was intended to be.

It doesn't equal it by itself but if you equate in everything else I stated, it could.

If he said it about TDs, I'd say no f-ing way but it is believable when it comes to KTF.