Starting all over again

You just refuse to be open minded to the fact. Everything points in that direction including a somewhat credible source 4 years after the release. I said Positive, you said Negative and now you can't take the fact that you might be wrong.... Once Again!

NJ spawned only 9 confirmed Demos from the NJ sessions. There are a few others in question such as We All Sleep Alone and House Of Fire but that is not enough proof that NJ was supposed to be a double album.

I never once heard Jon or anyone state that in all my years. I think that that is a Dry County conspiracy theory. Besides the fact that they were massive, nothing points in the direction to a double album.
And to be honest, with the exception of a few, I'm glad the remaining demos didn't make the album because I never thought they were up to par with the rest of it.

RD, I really think you're wrong on this. Google it, lots of people online not on JT talk about NJ was conceived as a double album at some point. If you're going to argue that "So what it's just people on the internet!" then your "KTF was a double album because this guy on the internet that could possibly be associated with the band" goes out the window.

Was there enough songs to release a double album? Sure. KTF and Crush have a similar backstory. Jon wrote a ton of songs and then Jon wrote a ton of songs with Richie. Both albums came out with songwriting credits somewhere in the middle due to the sheer amount.

NJ was definitely going to be a double album called "Sons Of Beaches" this is very much common knowledge and I'm surprised that this is even being debated. Theres a lot of us who have heard that so I would think you should assume that its the truth. Its been said in a good few interviews at the time (and Im not hunting for Youtube links for "proof" but its definitely out there.

It was mentioned in the unofficial biography http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=X...ed=0CDkQ6AEwAQ which is as good/bad a source as that fan made Q&A.

I wasn't aware of KTF ever being a double album and have seen nothing to prove it either way, but NJ was definitely planned to be for a while of that there is no doubt

Could be but it's worth a detailed discussion. I'd rather discuss this over Jon's favorite color.

I've heard and believed that NJ was supposed to be a double CD for years but now that we are discussing it, I'm having my doubts. Doc wanted to get Bon Jovi back on the road asap so the time to make a double cd seems unlikely.

This could just be a viral rumor. I have no recollection of any official statement from anyone in the Bon Jovi camp stating such a thing.

Maybe there is a mix-up of NJ and KTF due to the Jersey/Faith Outtakes.

Yeah NJ was definitely going to be a double album originally. I've heard this numerous times and I'm sure it's in Mick Walls All Night Long book. Never heard anything similar about KTF.

Agreed, I love talking about stuff like this over the dumb fluff.

I don't follow, are you saying everyone thinking NJ being a double album harkens back to misinformation and they were talking about KTF?

Yes.

Jon saying that he'd like to do one verse the record company saying that they want one are 2 completely different things.

In regards to NJ, I just can't see the record company giving them the green light to do one and then half way through it, tell them to stop because
"the price would be too high"... I'm not buying that story either. Bon Jovi were too big at that time for that type of BS.

Now if Jon wanted to do one and the record company said no because of the high price, then that would be a totally different story. But if that was the case, i wouldn't consider that "plans for a double album" That's just Jon's fantasy bullshit, something he has done quite often. Jon might have had enough songs to contemplate a double album and proposed it to the record company and that was their excuse to say no.

I think KTF could share a similar story to the scenario above. Jon had a shit load of songs and wanted to do a double CD but the record company said, "F That".

Hey buddy if only! There are tons of interviews during that era and time that I wish I could find on youtube. Radio interviews, TV and even magazines. Unfortunately I only have the information in my head. If someone else finds it by all means, I would love them to post the link.

This was before the internet time, youtube time but I can 100% guarantee that they said a double disc CD for New Jersey and it was going to be called Sons of Beaches. No doubt about that, if it was hype or just all talk, who knows but it was talked about. It was all during the Slippery tour.

This is a good discussion and maybe you are correct about KTF. All I am saying is that I have never heard about that, not even in the promo talks for KTF. Not once have I heard them mentioned it was going to be a double disc.

From the June 2003 Classic Rock Magazine cover story on New Jersey:

Yea Brian