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Old 05-06-2013, 09:14 PM
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From the June 2003 Classic Rock Magazine cover story on New Jersey:

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Old 05-06-2013, 10:25 PM
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How is that a winner?

First off, just because something is written in some rock magazine from 2003, doesn't mean shit. That's what probably started the rumor in the first place. I want a direct quote from someone in the Bon Jovi camp.

I have one of those types of write-ups where they say Jon wrote half of Skid Row's album. It doesn't mean shit unless it comes from someone official.

Second, even if so, this proves exactly what i said in my previous post using scenario 2 anyway. Jon wanted NJ to be a double album but the record co said "hell no" so NJ was never supposed to be a double album. Jon came to the table with ALMOST 30 songs and a suggestion. That's a little different than the record company bringing it to the table and then the band planning and writing around it. Songs like Love Is War, Let's Make It Baby, and Judgment Day are not good enough for a double CD anyway.

Technically, NJ was never supposted to be a double album. Jon wanted NJ to be a double album.

Getting back to KTF, it could have followed that same path. Jon could have written another 30+ songs and revisited the idea again.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:29 PM
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How is that a winner?

First off, just because something is written in some rock magazine from 2003, doesn't mean shit. That's what probably started the rumor in the first place. I want a direct quote from someone in the Bon Jovi camp.

I have one of those types of write-ups where they say Jon wrote half of Skid Row's album. It doesn't mean shit unless it comes from someone official.
The piece is an interview with Jon.i doubt anything was allowed in there that wasn't okayed beforehand.
Also, whether it was Jon that came to the record company, and they said no, or vice versa isn't really the point. One way or another, it's been discussed many times that the follow-up to Slippery was potentially going to be a double album.
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How is that a winner?

First off, just because something is written in some rock magazine from 2003, doesn't mean shit. That's what probably started the rumor in the first place. I want a direct quote from someone in the Bon Jovi camp.

I have one of those types of write-ups where they say Jon wrote half of Skid Row's album. It doesn't mean shit unless it comes from someone official.

Second, even if so, this proves exactly what i said in my previous post using scenario 2 anyway. Jon wanted NJ to be a double album but the record co said "hell no" so NJ was never supposed to be a double album. Jon came to the table with ALMOST 30 songs and a suggestion. That's a little different than the record company bringing it to the table and then the band planning and writing around it. Songs like Love Is War, Let's Make It Baby, and Judgment Day are not good enough for a double CD anyway.

Technically, NJ was never supposted to be a double album. Jon wanted NJ to be a double album.

Getting back to KTF, it could have followed that same path. Jon could have written another 30+ songs and revisited the idea again.
Rock magazine's feature with the band = bad. Random website = good? Your theories are exactly theories. Multiple people have heard about NJ being a double album, nobody but one has heard KTF was supposed to be one. NJ's potential double album was talked about LONG before 2003 so how could the rumour have started there.

EDIT: http://www.drycounty.com/jovitalk/sh...ad.php?t=52934 Can we use you as a source?
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How is that a winner?

First off, just because something is written in some rock magazine from 2003, doesn't mean shit. That's what probably started the rumor in the first place. I want a direct quote from someone in the Bon Jovi camp.
What are you talking about? How can that have been where the rumor started, when the double disc talk started way back in 1988 and this was in 2003?
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:03 AM
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RDKopper, give it up you are making a mess of yourself and failing all over the place.

Of course, if contradictions, bullshit, and guesswork are your bag then crack on, I am just trying to offer some friendly advice.
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RDKopper, give it up you are making a mess of yourself and failing all over the place.

Of course, if contradictions, bullshit, and guesswork are your bag then crack on, I am just trying to offer some friendly advice.
Stick your advice up your ass.

I've heard the NJ double disk rummor for years but was looking for some official proof. Jon wanting to do one is different than 'it was supposed to be one'

In my opinion, about 15 additional tracks were written for NJ and 15 additional tracks were written for Faith. Most are average at best for both sets.

If Rock Magazine said that Jon wanted NJ to be a double album, take it for what it's worth. It's really not the big deal that everyone makes it out to be. If the record co was on board and he was writing for a double album, that holds more ground.

I found a pretty creditable source that said the same about Faith. I'll believe that Jon had the same imagination but Jon wanting it to be one and it was supposed to be one are two different things.

Jon can preach politics all he wants and he may want to be the President but he was never supposed to be one.
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Stick your advice up your ass.

I found a pretty creditable source that said the same about Faith.
Insensitive considering I lost my ass in an industrial accident three years ago, but I will let it slide as I understand that getting smashed around the thread has probably made you tense. Fair play and all that.

Firstly, saying your source is pretty credible and a printed publication is not is utter crap. You cling tightly to your credible source but ignore others, tight.

Your source is incredible, no that's not right, uncredible? Nope, how the **** do you say it? Oh right, its bullshit hombre.
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Insensitive considering I lost my ass in an industrial accident three years ago, but I will let it slide as I understand that getting smashed around the thread has probably made you tense. Fair play and all that.

Firstly, saying your source is pretty credible and a printed publication is not is utter crap. You cling tightly to your credible source but ignore others, tight.

Your source is incredible, no that's not right, uncredible? Nope, how the **** do you say it? Oh right, its bullshit hombre.
Both sources aren't any more or less credible than each other. Fans know more than magazine journalists and that was no average fan. His deep and correct knowledge on the other 30 questions were so spot on, there is no reason not to take his answer about Faith.

Based on the facts, it's more believable that Faith could have been a double album. Jersey took 3 months to make and Faith took 6. Double the songs...
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Based on the facts, it's more believable that Faith could have been a double album. Jersey took 3 months to make and Faith took 6. Double the songs...
I don't know why you're defending this random guy so much. It's far from more believable, you haven't offered any new facts other than this guy.
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