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Stranger in this town 45 52.94%
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Old 03-26-2008, 02:46 PM
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Like Emil said, lol....

Lyrically, Young Guns is completely superior to Stranger In This Town, but Stranger does capture a particular mood very well.

Yeah, Stranger has highlights like the Answer and Father Time, and Young Guns has it's highlights Santa Fe and Blaze Of Glory, but look at the rest of the tracks...

River Of Love vs Dying Ain't Much Of A Living? Win for Young Guns II

Rosie vs Justice In A Barrel? Win for Young Guns II

Mr Bluesman vs Blood Money? Win for Young Guns II

Chruch Of Desire vs Miracle? Win for Young Guns II.

Songs like You Really Got Me and Billy Get Your Guns would probably lose out to comparable Stranger tracks, but Young Guns really does have far superior tracks to Stranger.

IMO, Undiscovered Soul is the better Richie album anyway. But I'd still take Destination Anywhere over that, though it would be a close one.
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River Of Love vs Dying Ain't Much Of A Living? Win for Young Guns II
River Of Love. Dying Ain't Much Of A Living drags.[/QUOTE]

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Rosie. It's a proper heavy guitar song, has stunning vocals and a cool theme around it. Justice In A Barrel drags, nice intro and all that but it gets boring shortly after it.

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Mr. Bluesman. It's lyrics might be simple but the music is good for what it is. And besides that, it has Clapton playing on it, so how can you go wrong with that? Mr. Bluesman is a song, Blood Money is just a lot of lyrics spread over 3 chords. The fact that they fade out in the song even while it's not finished says a lot I think.

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Chruch Of Desire vs Miracle? Win for Young Guns II.
Both equally as good.

I really feel that Blaze Of Glory sounds like an album that has it's moments. There were a lot of ideas for songs, but he wasn't capable of working them all out. In no way it sounds like a complete album despite it's cowboy theme. Stranger In This Town however rocks from start to finish, has a better production and a lot, lot better guitar work, which is what attracted me to Bon Jovi in the first place. Not that cowboy theme.

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Like Emil said, lol....

Lyrically, Young Guns is completely superior to Stranger In This Town, but Stranger does capture a particular mood very well.

Yeah, Stranger has highlights like the Answer and Father Time, and Young Guns has it's highlights Santa Fe and Blaze Of Glory, but look at the rest of the tracks...

River Of Love vs Dying Ain't Much Of A Living? Win for Young Guns II

Rosie vs Justice In A Barrel? Win for Young Guns II

Mr Bluesman vs Blood Money? Win for Young Guns II

Chruch Of Desire vs Miracle? Win for Young Guns II.

Songs like You Really Got Me and Billy Get Your Guns would probably lose out to comparable Stranger tracks, but Young Guns really does have far superior tracks to Stranger.

IMO, Undiscovered Soul is the better Richie album anyway. But I'd still take Destination Anywhere over that, though it would be a close one.
Those are odd songs to compare ... I think it'd be better to compare the songs which are stylistically and structurally similar:

Billy Get Your Guns vs. Ballad Of Youth? Win for Richie

Rosie vs. Never Say Die? Win for Richie

Church Of Desire vs. Justice In The Barrel? Probable win for Jon

Dyin' Ain't Much Of A Livin' vs. The Answer? Tough, but probable win for Richie

Blaze vs. Stranger (the songs)? Probable win for Jon

Father Time vs. Santa Fe? Again very tough, but probable win for Jon

One Light Burning vs. Miracle? Also tough, I'm not actually sure

River Of Love vs. You Really Got Me? Again, not sure, neither of them are exactly high points of their respective albums

Rest In Peace vs. Blood Money? No contest at all

Mr Bluesman vs. Bang A Drum? I'd say most probably Jon

Actually, the two albums each have 10 songs which sync up surprisingly well But yeah, looked at like that I think shows that both are great albums

I really want to listen to Stranger now
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Well, the thing is, stylistically, the two albums are actually world's apart. They aren't similar at all, so comparing songs like for like is kind of irrelevant - but my apologies for just picking random thoughts out of my head - I have a habit of doing that.

And again, we see the great differences in people's opinions - Seb thinks Rosie has stunning vocals - but I think it's the most redundant, cheesy song on Stranger, and was a Bon Jovi cast off anyway. Plus, it just doesn't mesh with the rest of the album at all.

But these are wholly my opinions. As I said, I'd have a much harder time comparing Undiscovered Soul and Destination Anywhere, because with Undiscovered Soul Richie really hit the mark with a lot of songs, and so did Jon on Destination. In fact, I can't think of a low point on either of those two albums.

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I did totally forget about One Light Burning though, and that's an awesome song, so that's 3 from Stranger for me that would match anything on Young Guns, so maybe the battle for Stranger isn't lost yet with me
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