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Old 04-20-2009, 09:21 AM
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Is there a change in make a memory?
It's pretty easy to sing (as the whole Lost Highway album)...I thought there wasn't the need of a change.
I think from the bridge to the chorus of someday I'll be Sat. night there's this kind of "jump".
I guess I will start taking some lessons...I'm too interested in this topic.

There are many places where he switches, but it's probably easiest to hear it at about 2.36. After that it's basically just head voice.

Saturday Night has many changes, Jon switches to head voice for the last line of the bridge.

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Because you're too lazy to find out for yourself?

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Exactly.


But I also find it much easier to understand from people actually trying to explain it to me rather than technical definitions off the internet.
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but it's probably easiest to hear it at about 2.36. After that it's basically just head voice.
What do you mean with 2.36?
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What do you mean with 2.36?
Sorry I didn't notice the link.

Is that head voice? I thought it started at a higher level.
I've just subscribed to an italian forum all about singing.
I'll ask something about Jon even over there...they give professional opinons about singers and I won't miss to post the result even here.

I got one for you...can you tell me what's that strange "explosion" in the ear while going pretty high?
I was singing River runs dry just an hour ago driving back home and that happened again on "....with the FIRE in their eyes..." exactly on" FIRE".
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Is that head voice? I thought it started at a higher level.
It depends on the singer. Each has got his own range. Some can sing higher with chest voice ("tenors") but others use it earlier.

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I got one for you...can you tell me what's that strange "explosion" in the ear while going pretty high?
I was singing River runs dry just an hour ago driving back home and that happened again on "....with the FIRE in their eyes..." exactly on" FIRE".

I've got no idea. I have ruined my ears playing very loud rock for years and I get that "explosion" if I hear something in the right frequency, usually a cymbal or such, but I've sometimes had it while singing as well.

And yeah, I wear earplug nowadays.

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I've got no idea. I have ruined my ears playing very loud rock for years and I get that "explosion" if I hear something in the right frequency, usually a cymbal or such, but I've sometimes had it while singing as well.

And yeah, I wear earplug nowadays.
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No it is not something so serious. It's kinda like the sensation you have when going to mountains. At a certain altitude your ears start to "close"....the "explosion" I'm talking about it is something like when you compensate closing your nose and blowing. And I can feel it while singing high notes just in my right ear.
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I'm guessing that it's where you're opening up the tubes a little more when reaching certain notes. I get it sometimes when you make an exaggerated or tensed jaw motion when singing.
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I'm guessing that it's where you're opening up the tubes a little more when reaching certain notes. I get it sometimes when you make an exaggerated or tensed jaw motion when singing.
Yes...it's got to be the case.
I can correct it pushing a finger on the ear in order to close it.
In this way it doesn't happen.
Compatibly with my working day I'm reading quite a lot about singing theory...I'm impressed how much there's to learn about it for people like me.
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Will jon ever get his voice at least a little back, he had some of it for the last part of the Lost Highway tour.
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No it is not something so serious. It's kinda like the sensation you have when going to mountains. At a certain altitude your ears start to "close"....the "explosion" I'm talking about it is something like when you compensate closing your nose and blowing. And I can feel it while singing high notes just in my right ear.
On both sides of the upper pharynx, there is a short tube called the Eustachian duct that connects the middle ear and the nasal cavity. It functions as a pressure valve so that adequate pressure conditions can be maintained in the middle ear. This valve system opens and shuts according to ambient athmospheric pressure and the pressure inside the nasal cavity.

Amongst other things, singing or going to the mountains (where the athmospheric pressure is lower than at sea level) can alter these pressure conditions. Accordingly, the Eustachian tube opens and closes. The explosion you are talking about most likely reflects this opening or closure.
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