The interview link you posted in no way conflicts with what I said. He said he experimented—which he did—and you seemed to have missed the part that he doesn’t anymore and hasn’t “in SO MANY years.” That was 1993.

BTW, thanks for that link. I have that on video tape somewhere and have not been able to find it for probably 20 years. It’s one of the best interviews with Jon and I look forward to watching it in full when I have time. I’m really excited to see it again!