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Old 02-19-2014, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by nickolai View Post
Because Wikipedia is always right. Makes me laugh when muggy little know-it-alls think they are right because of what Wikipedia says.
Wow, you ARE thick. Are you really saying that dynamic compression is the same as file compression? If you don't like Wikipedia, you can find hundreds of other sources that confirm that it's not. It's okay to make mistakes, but being stupid on purpose is idiotic.

http://cochise.uia.net/pkelley2/DynamicCR.html
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-10360787-47.html
http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/compressor.html

http://computer.howstuffworks.com/file-compression.htm


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I've said all i will on this matter. Ice. You are wrong. Stop spurting Shitopedia at me because I'm not interested.
No, I most definately am right. You're wrong. There's no two ways about it, it's a fact.

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And going on about compression. Compression isn't possible on vinyl - but is on wav and mp3s - and thus used extensively.
LOL! You're so far off that you don't even understand it. You're confusing file compression with audio compression. Two totally different things. They have NOTHING to do with each other.

WAV-file is a data file containing audio. You can not have a compressed WAV file. MP3 is a lossy, compressive audio FILE format. It has NOTHING to do with audios (file or not) DYNAMIC RANGE COMPRESSION which is where you decrease the dynamic range of ANY audio, in file format, analog or digital, it's all the same.

And EVERY vinyl recording has dynamic range compression, it's done in the mastering process. You HAVE TO HAVE dynamic range compression on vinyl as there IS MUCH LESS room for dynamics than on a CD.

Again, it's okay to make mistakes, but you're just being an idiot. You've been presented all the evidence you need, from a professional audio technician telling you how it goes to numerical facts, but instead of reading it, and maybe learning something, you act like a 4-year-old.

I don't have anything to prove here, everything I've told you is a FACT. You can look it up anywhere. Call any professional, they will tell you the same.

I will try to put this in simple sentences, maybe you'll get it this way:

FILE compression IS NOT dynamic range compression.

File compression makes digital files smaller.
Dynamic range compression makes audio sound louder. Two TOTALLY different things.
You can compress (=dynamic range compression) ANY audio source, analog or digital.
Audio compressing (dynamic range compression) is a NORMAL PART of any mastering process.
It defines how much dynamic range the mastered recording will have.
No matter where you're going to place the finished product; CD, vinyl or cassette or anything else, there's compression on it.
On vinyl you HAVE TO compress the dynamics, because the needle will jump out of the grooves if there's too much dynamics.
Also, you CAN use more compression on vinyl, if you decrease the amount of audio you fit on it. Wider curves for grooves allow bigger dynamics.
HOWEVER a CD has MUCH BIGGER ROOM for dynamics than a vinyl album.
Maximum dynamic range on a vinyl album is about 80dB, depending on the amount of audio on one side.
Maximum dynamic range of a CD is over 120dB, even up to 150dB.

So, be wrong if you want to be, but you'd better know what you're talking about before trying to act smart.

I didn't learn this from Wikipedia, I learned it in school way before Wikipedia was ever invented. I've also taught sound design in many schools, so I do know what I'm talking about. You, however, seem to base all your infromation of hi-fi myths.

And since you think compression means file compression, how do you think compression plug-ins work? You apply them before you ever save the audio files, what are they then compressing?

http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/...ugins-588689/1

And how to guitar compression pedals work? What are they compressing? What file are they making smaller?

http://music.stackexchange.com/quest...essor-pedal-do

Again, if you make mistake, own up to it. Don't be an idiot. Read the info provided to you, free of charge. Learn. Own up to your mistake. Don't be an idiot.

Ice
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