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Old 09-10-2012, 12:55 PM
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12. Loves The Only Rule
11. Happy Now
10. Superman Tonight
9. Brokenpromiseland
8. Learn To Love
7. Work For The Working Man
6. We Werent Born To Follow
5. Thorn In My Side
4. Fast Cars
3. Live Before You Die
2. When We Were Beautiful
1. Bullet
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:33 PM
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12. Love's The Only Rule
11. Happy Now
10. When We Were Beautiful
09. Thorn In My Side
08. Superman Tonight
07. Brokenpromiseland
06. Bullet
05. We Weren't Born To Follow
04. Live Before You Die
03. Learn To Love
02. Fast Cars
01. Work For The Working Man
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I couldn’t wait for this ranking to be honest. I know I am probably the only one to say this, but I don’t care, I will say it anyway. This album is my 3rd favourite album the band has ever done, only behind KTF and TD.
Wow, what a review! I'm glad you like the album so much. I always thought it was a step in the right direction, songwriting wise. When I'm in the mood for it, I really love the album and dig it for its diversity. It has its pros and cons, but is definitely one of the stronger outputs of the last years. What bothers me is the priduction: LH for example sounds much 'warmer' but has the lazier songs. On TC it feels like they experimented more again and tried to give the songs more room to breathe, like the drumfills in "Love's The Only Rule". It's not wicked playing, but we haven't heard something like this on the last albums.

I'm not sure how I'd like a "Circle part 2" though. I'm not a fan of the "What About Now" snippet, because that again sounds like something we have heard a zillion times, and is musically playing it safe. Like someone trying to write a modern Bon Jovi song. I'm always hoping for an organic rock sound to return, that sounds like a band is actually playing together. But if they continue the path of diversity that seperates TC from its predecessors, I'm very open for it.
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Old 09-11-2012, 09:54 AM
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All in all, this kind of album is exactly what I need from this band at this point of my life. I don’t want the sound of the 80 or 90 anymore. Those days are behind us, and I want to hear the songs about things important to me, and actually important in general. It’s just that some people refuse to accept that. They’d rather listen to shallow songs on the radio about partying, sex, violence, easy money and easy life. I want a mature songwriting and TC delivers that 100%. This is exactly what a 50 year old guys should write about. They have enough experience on their shoulders to express it in such songs. Maybe if I was younger (although being at my 30’s I think I am young) I would not take this album so well. I don’t know. I think that mostly people over 30 years old appreciate this album and that says a lot too.
Great post and analysis Kuba- There´s not much more to say. I wish I had written your words
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:17 AM
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I couldn’t wait for this ranking to be honest. I know I am probably the only one to say this, but I don’t care, I will say it anyway. This album is my 3rd favourite album the band has ever done, only behind KTF and TD. Until it was released I would never say that any new album would break the almighty 4 records – SWW, NJ, KTF, TD – which were unbeatable for me back then. But never say never. Of course each one of us has its own music taste, and is looking for different things in BJ songs, and I know really well that for most of people over here this album is poor. For me – it’s a masterpiece. Both musically and lyrically, but I think the lyrics and the general message that it brings is its strongest feature.
From the moment is was released, this one is the album I’ve been listening to the most. I have it constantly in my car with me, just in case I need it. There are weeks when I listen to it every day going to work, sometimes it’s just only 2-3 times a month. Anyway, I’ve listened to it so much I have scratches on ST and Bullet, so I can’t listen to those anymore, so I will have to buy a new CD soon I think. Actually I joined this board after the release of this album as I wanted to share thoughts with people from all around the world about this great band and the new album (back then).
This ranking couldn’t have come in a better timing actually. This past week I was listening to this album everyday. I had an extremely busy and stressful week at work, with extreme responsibility on my head and I needed a helping hand. And always in such crucial moments I look for BJ. And apart from KTF, DC and TD, the songs from The Circle always help me out like nothing else. So it’s time for some thoughts about the songs.

BrokenPromiseland – the best song by the band of the last 17 years, for me. No doubts about it. The best one since TD album. I love absolutely everything in this song. I love the intro, I love the lyrics, I love the passion in vocals, and love guitar work and solo. I can’t believe they played it only once on TC tour. This is the biggest mistake they have ever done in my opinion. It would sound awesome. That one last try in Hawaii did not sound great, I admit, but it needed only some more works and better vocals from Jon (which showed up later during the tour) and it would have been a killer and should have been a staple. “No need to fear what hasn’t happened yet” and “Rise my fallen angel, shine, don’t let them break you” are the moments I love the most. It has automatically reached my personal TOP5 of all BJ songs, and I really mean that.
Happy Now – to be perfectly honest, this song is very close behind BPL. And actually, this is the one I play the most when I feel I need motivation and find myself in need for help. Like this week for example. It’s kind of like it says “Can I be happy now?” – in a way – “F***k off all you people and leave me alone” when I think there’s too much things put on my shoulders and also “Can I be happy now?” in a way – “I will prove to everyone and to myself I can do it, no matter what happens on the way”. This song led me to my dream in Dublin. Whole chorus gives me so much power to fight with all the shit life is throwing at me, that there’s no way I will lose. It’s actually lyrically very close to KTF for me. And I am so happy I got this in Dublin too. For sure will keep this moment in my heart forever.
Love’s the Only Rule – well, this song actually is the biggest grower for me. I remember that right after the release of the album Bullet was my third fav and this one was few places lower, but with time and the experience of being a father, I realized how unbelievably strong are the lyrics of this song. It has been fav song of my wife from TC from the start, but I needed some time to appreciate its message. And the moment when they closed the 2nd show in Dublin with this song, was the moment, that sealed its position on this album and how important it is for me now. This song works perfect live, absolutely perfect. And I love the speech Jon does at the beginning of it and I am 100% sure he really means it. I am really sad when people think he does everything only for the money, while for me this is the last things that’s on his mind at this level of his career. I am happy that songs like this are being written in the times of pop shit that we are being fed with in the media.
Those 3 songs above are without a doubt my Top3 and very close to each other. And those 3 songs alone determine, that for me this album is better than SWW and NJ.
All the songs behind it for me are almost equally great and each one has some defining moments. TIMS is also one of those songs I love to play when I am pushed against the wall. We need to experience downfalls and hard moments to understand and appreciate the good times. I need that “thorn” to be happy eventually. And I love that outro solo they did on the tour. Unfortunately I was not lucky enough to witness it myself personally.
I still love Bullet and it’s still one of my favourites on the album. I love its heavy sound and it bold lyrics, kind of like Hey God style “God or you listening or have you just given up?”.
LTL is the most underrated song of the album. The lyrics are absolutely beautiful. Perfect songwriting and great melody. And also perfect finish of the album. I also regret it hasn’t been played on the tour at all.
WWBTF is the only song I knew before the album release. But I never stopped loving it. The single showed up also in the moment when I faced a new challenge at work and needed to prove myself that I can make impossible “possible”. The title says it all. And citizens of my city knows it like no one else. It is here where “Solidarity” movement was set up, that eventually led to collapse of socialism in Eastern Europe in the 80’s. “We weren’t born to follow” the communism rules and even though the rest of the world seemed to don’t care, we had to fight for our rights by ourselves. And we won. But of course today for me it has some personal meaning, rather than political one.
WWWB is an amazing song. I agree that some things were better “before the world got small, before we knew it all”.
ST is also a great rock song and I enjoy it very much. I have no hard feelings for WFTWM too. Nice rock song, maybe just overplayed a little on the tour, which has taken a spot for some other songs from TC (BPL definitely).
The songs that I listen to the least are Live Before You Die and Fast Cars. But the reason for that might also be the fact, that both are put right before my fav tracks – BPL and HN, respectively. I always want to hear my favs asap so that’s why I also push “next” button when those to start to play.

All in all, this kind of album is exactly what I need from this band at this point of my life. I don’t want the sound of the 80 or 90 anymore. Those days are behind us, and I want to hear the songs about things important to me, and actually important in general. It’s just that some people refuse to accept that. They’d rather listen to shallow songs on the radio about partying, sex, violence, easy money and easy life. I want a mature songwriting and TC delivers that 100%. This is exactly what a 50 year old guys should write about. They have enough experience on their shoulders to express it in such songs. Maybe if I was younger (although being at my 30’s I think I am young) I would not take this album so well. I don’t know. I think that mostly people over 30 years old appreciate this album and that says a lot too.
I am personally really happy that the new album probably will be a continuation of TC. I am all for it and can’t wait for the new album and for the tour, hopefully with the first show ever in Poland. I will do everything I can to make that happen. “What would you say to me if I told you I had a dream….?”

12 - BrokenPromiseland
11 - Happy Now
10 - Love's The Only Rule
09 - Thorn In My Side
08 - Bullet
07 - Learn To Love
06 - We Weren't Born To Follow
05 - When We Were Beautiful
04 - Superman Tonight
03 - Work For The Working Man
02 - Fast Cars
01 - Live Before You Die
Thank you for post. I enjoyed it I understand you thoughts and feelings. So good to know, that I am not only one who loves this album. Last years I have been listening TC the most . Guys did very good job.
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:52 AM
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Like I said before, I love this album. It is hard to rate albums, ut The Circle is somewhere in the top. TC has songs what are really my songs. All albums don´t have to be and can´t be like Slippery, NJ, KTF. I like difference. Yeah all songs don´t sound good in live, but I like to listen them when I am running, cooking ,sitting in the bus ect. I like guys storytelling.
Maybe I like this album so much because it was my second tour and this time I saw them 3 times, in Paris, Helsinki, Bucharest and I enjoyed all shows.

Loves The Only Rule. One of he best BJ songs. Great lyrics It´s pop song, but I like it. Happy Now has power, anger, hope. These two songs makes me feel better. I don´t Superman video, for me it was boy-girl song but with video is something else.

12. Loves The Only Rule
11. Happy Now
10. Superman Tonight
9.Thorn In My Side
8. We We Werent Born To Follow
7. Bullet
6. When We Were Beautiful
5. Work For The Working Man
4. Brokenpromiseland
3. Fast Cars
2. Learn To Love
1. Live Before You Die
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This is to this day my favourite post-2000 album by the band. I remember everybody saying who much they liked it when it came out, and after a few months about half of them starting bashing the band for this record.

I'm not a fan of all they did on The Circle, especially not of the production and the "shalalala's". But, when it comes down to it, there are many songs on it that mean a lot to me. People always say how they don't like BJ going for more and more universal lyrics, which can be interepreted as anything and everything. Usually I'm on this side and sometimes that really makes me cringe, but here I somehow manages it to adapt the themes of the songs to my life and make the lyrics my own. And I'm pretty sure that's why the album has a real special place for me.

12. Brokenpromiseland
11. When We Were Beautiful
10. Happy Now
09. Love's The Only Rule
08. Superman Tonight
07. Thorn In My Side
06. We Weren't Born To Follow
05. Bullet
04. Learn To Love
03. Work For The Working Man
02. Fast Cars
01. Live Before You Die
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12. Thorn in My Side
11. Love's the Only Rule
10. Bullet
9. Brokenpromiseland
8. We Weren't Born To Follow
7. Happy Now
6. Superman Tonight
5. When We Were Beautiful
4. Learn To Love
3. Fast Cars
2. Learn to Love

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12 Love's The Only Rule
11 Superman Tonight
10 Thorn In My Side
09 Happy Now
08 When We Were Beautiful
07 Broken Promise Land
06 Learn To Love
05 Born To Follow
04 Bullet
03 Work For The Working Man
02 Fast Cars
01 Learn To Love
I think you both need to double check your votes . Last I checked there was only one track called "Learn to Love" .
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12- Thorn In My Side
11- Brokenpromiseland
10- Love's The Only Rule
09- Superman Tonight
08- Happy Now
07- We Weren't Born to Follow
06- Bullet
05- When We Were Beautiful
04- Work For The Working Man
03- Fast Cars
02- Learn to Love
01- Live Before You Die
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Fixed votes.

12. Thorn in My Side
11. Love's the Only Rule
10. Bullet
9. Brokenpromiseland
8. We Weren't Born To Follow
7. Happy Now
6. Superman Tonight
5. When We Were Beautiful
4. Learn To Love
3. Fast Cars
2. Live Before You Die

0. Work for the Working Man
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