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Old 05-16-2013, 06:20 AM
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I've always thought Alec's tell-all interview with David Ling for Raw(I think) magazine was the final nail in his coffin. Alec admitted Jon always told him he sucked. And there was something else with him about guns..either he and Doc had loaded guns in their dressing room, or Alec brought a gun out on stage...something crazy. I want to say he got arrested, but can't remember all the details.
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Old 05-16-2013, 06:22 AM
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The first bootleg that comes to my mind (and that's because Jon called attention to it) is the acoustic Madrid radio broadcast in 1992 (40 Principales). It was Blood on Blood I think and the comment was something like "Thanks Al - it goes back to D".

I will see if there is a YT clip of it. There is video of this also but that part is cut out of the video.

Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msyHjUK1usE at about 30 seconds in.
Aside from the mistake and Jon stopping the song, this is a gorgeous performance.
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Old 05-16-2013, 06:41 AM
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I have a show from Argentina maybe ? 1989 where Alec ****s up the first verse of Lay your hands on me ..... Its major and jon shakes his head at him and cuts him a death look .... Funny .
Was this maybe the birth of the feared and dreaded stink eye?
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Old 05-16-2013, 03:33 PM
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For the record, I liked Alec's playing, but his voice ****ing ruined everything. Versions of Bad Name are the worst offenders. That falsetto-esque ridiculously-high-pitched voice was is not welcome to my ears.
**** no, that's what's missing from the songs nowadays. Alec's vocals made those songs great, now they're seriously lacking in harmonies.

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Old 05-17-2013, 10:26 AM
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**** no, that's what's missing from the songs nowadays. Alec's vocals made those songs great, now they're seriously lacking in harmonies.

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Agreed.
JBJ needs to reunite with Alec and Richie. Tour as a 5 piece again.
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Old 05-17-2013, 03:48 PM
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Yeah, being a bass player, it's only appropriate for my first post to be in this thread From what I've seen in the old Bon Jovi videos, it's obvious that Alec was lacking the grooviness and "feel" expected from a good bass player. Maybe it's hard to explain for someone who doesn't play bass or is not a musician, but it's obvious to someone like me. There's no comparison between Huey McDonald and Alec, the former is the superior bassist by far. The accenting, the feel, etc. everything is much better with Hugh for sure.

And someone posted above that the band is very sloppy these days compared to the old days and if Alec were here now, he would fit in better. I don't know what sloppiness is in question here but it's definitely not from the rhythm section I can tell you that. Bon jovi backline of bass-drums-keys is very solid these days. They lock in pretty well. If it's Sambora that's being pointed out, I wouldn't know about that. But the backline is pretty tight. And Huey McDonald is a big part of that. That guy has good feel, even the 16ths he plays have a nice groove to them, playing just behind the beat a little bit. Makes it sound good.

The general problem with Bon Jovi live sound these days is the general problem of the recording industry. The terribly loud mixes. You can't easily distinguish instruments and hear them clearly because of that. Which sucks of course. Their post 2000's albums are mixed terribly. You don't need to be an audophile to hear that either, just listen to Live From London and then some recent DVD. You'll realize that how crystal clear the sound of the former is, whereas the new ones are static all over the place.

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Old 05-17-2013, 11:08 PM
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On his old website Q&A session Hugh answered my own question. He confirmed he's written the bass line for everything he's played with Bon Jovi including Livin' On A Prayer, Keep The Faith. Kevin Shirley also said he played bass on the Cross Road sessions. As for other songs I don't know. Alec certainly provided the backing vocals (you can hear his high vocals on Blood On Blood). He, Dave and Richie provides a trinity of good backing vocals. I also heard the Desmond Child was an additional backing vocalist. Having heard his 'Discipline' album and his contribution to other artists I'm pretty sure he's been used in the past.
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:18 AM
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What about his drug addiction?
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