you know... i like the band because of their music and if they make music i love but it is not succesfull then i'd still like the band- but if they make crappy pop-like shit (crush) which recruits masses of fans of which bout 75% are screeming teen girls arguing about jon's ass and don't give a **** about the music then i hate them a) for recruiting majorly idiots as fans which disturb me in every way at a concert and b: (which is the most important) for making music for which listening to is a waste of time