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Old 06-14-2020, 09:36 PM
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Then again, a double disc = higher price point which could have lead to less sales. We'll never know but I think the label made the right call.
Considering it was released right in the middle of the Grunge movement, they made the obvious decision in America.

But you're right about the price point. When double cds first came out, they were priced much higher. It wasn't until later when they changed to be just a couple bucks more.

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If it's not a debate, then there isn't much to discuss here... There were only 5 band albums to date. Picking the songs is nothing more than a process of elimination.

During the crossroads radio promos, the double album thing came up all the time... Sure they could have filled it especially with new songs and another rework but the record company said no...

Thanks to Always, they are probably kicking themselves for not doing a double CD.

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Yeah I didn't make the tracklist because I felt that Crossroad should have been a double disk album. But it could have been. So I tried to come up with what I think could have made the album.
I've expected us here to discuss the tracklist

I must say that I really enjoy listening to it. 30 songs that represent their peak. On the other hand, if I were to pick songs 30 songs from 1984 to 1994 to introduce Bon Jovi to new listeners, I'd have picked different songs and not alomost strictly singled. Generally, I think that a ompilation album should be a double disc when the first disc are the greatest hits -> the most successful singles over some time period (that means skipping some to have the chance to introduce the whole time period) and the second disc should be the best of -> fan favourites, band favourites, live staples, not necessarily commercial songs.
And as I've already mentioned, I'd go for such album after These Days.
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Normally a bands “greatest hits” album aren’t the bands beat songs. I mean one example, no Dry County on Crossroads.
I always think they should be called “the singles” collection as most are singles that were released.
GNRs greatest hits album has about 7 cover versions!
Around the early-mid 90s, putting 1 or 2 new tracks on a greatest hits album started to happen and that worked out brilliantly for Jovi with Always. I often wonder how many albums Crossroads would’ve sold without Always. As a fan without that and Sat night I’d have no reason to buy it.
Crossroads is Jovi biggest selling album in uk with roughly 2 million sold.
Greatest hits aren’t really aimed at die hards but more the causal fan.
You can’t have Edge of a broken heart on there as it never made an album and despite how great that song is it’s technically an unused track so not a greatest hit.


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Back in the mid-90s, there were lots of unofficial CDs sold in Bulgaria. When I became a Jovi fan in 1998, I could not for the life of me find any original Jovi CDs here (it was not until 2001 that I found a music shop offering to import music CDs from abroad). That being said, I bought whatever unofficial Bon Jovi CDs I could find. One of them was called "Crossroad volume 2," and it had the following tracklist:
1. Something For the Pain
2. Breakout
3. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
4. Diamond Ring
5. Dyin Ain't Much of a Livin
6. Let it Rock
7. Hey God
8. Mr. Bluesman
9. This Ain't a Love Song
10. Born to Be My Baby
11. Price of Love
12. I Believe
13. Billy Get Your Guns
14. I'd Die For You
15. Love Lies

I thought it'd be interesting to share. It's by no means a definitive list, but I was delighted to hear those songs for the first time when I bought it.


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I think for a second disc you would have struggled to fill it really.

Maybe something like this could have worked, taking the US version as disc one...

1. I Believe
2. Born To Be My Baby
3. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
4. Living In Sin
5. Only Lonely
6. Edge Of A Broken Heart
7. Dry Country
8. Miracle
9. Stranger In This Town
10. In These Arms
11. Tokyo Road
12. Blood On Blood
13. Good Guys Don't Always Wear White
14. Never Say Goodbye
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Take off Only Lonely, Good Guys, and Stranger. Replace with two more new songs and rework Runaway like initially intended. My guess is Runaway 2000 was the initial intention.

I also think Raise Your Hands could have made a hits album... I mean it was the opening song in Spaceballs.
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My guess is Runaway 2000 was the initial intention.
I don't think so. If that had been the case, the 1996 tour would have been the perfect opportunity to play it. But they reworked I'd Die For You instead and waited another 4 years for the piano driven version of Runaway.
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Take off Only Lonely, Good Guys, and Stranger. Replace with two more new songs and rework Runaway like initially intended. My guess is Runaway 2000 was the initial intention.

I also think Raise Your Hands could have made a hits album... I mean it was the opening song in Spaceballs.
Only Lonely and Blood on Blood were the two that I was unsure about.

I think Good Guys would have been a great additional "new track" as there has been a video for it, but no single release, and not previously put out on a BJ release, only a soundtrack.

I think Stranger should have been on there, has Jon always made it clear that it was the intention to include Stranger until he realised he could only have 80 mins...

A lot of the stuff I included was released as B-sides from Cross Road singles and on the VHS Cross Road video, so their inclusion makes sense to me.
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Only Lonely and Blood on Blood were the two that I was unsure about.



I think Good Guys would have been a great additional "new track" as there has been a video for it, but no single release, and not previously put out on a BJ release, only a soundtrack.



I think Stranger should have been on there, has Jon always made it clear that it was the intention to include Stranger until he realised he could only have 80 mins...



A lot of the stuff I included was released as B-sides from Cross Road singles and on the VHS Cross Road video, so their inclusion makes sense to me.
Jon hates those first two albums and just having both Tokyo Road and Only Lonely seems to be a bit of a stretch.

I don't believe Jon when he said Stranger would have been on there. I think he was just pacifying interview questions. Jon's always one step ahead and knew that Blaze might get questioned and then "why not a Richie song"




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The Deluxe Sound & Vision is crap - it's a weird collection of songs from different eras. It doesn't make any sense.
The original track listing for the second Sound & Vision disc made sense originally. When it first came up for pre-order all the tracks were the B-Sides of the singles featured on Cross Road, in the order that they appear on Cross Road (I've listed it below). For some reason they decided to change that Idea at some point, so that it made no sense whatsover, maybe to include songs from the Box set/Bounce eras. But I loved the original idea. It explains why some of the tracks were featured though!

1. Wild In The Streets (Livin' On A Prayer B-side)
2. I Wish Every Day Could Be Like Christmas (Keep The Faith B-Side)
3. Good Guys Don't Always Wear White (Someday I'll Be Saturday Night CD Single)
4. The Boys Are Back In Town (Always 12" Single B-Side)
5. Shot Through The Heart (Wanted Dead Or Alive B-Side)
6. Blood On Blood (Live at Wembley) (Lay Your Hands On Me B-Side)
7. Let It Rock (You Give Love A Bad Name B-Side)
8. Starting All Over Again (Bed Of Roses 12" Single B-Side)
9. Blood Money (Blaze Of Glory B-Side)
10. Save A Prayer (In These Arms CD Single)
11. 99 In The Shade (Bad Medicine B-Side)
12. Homebound Train (I'll Be There For You B-Side)
13. Roulette (Live) (In & Out Of Love B-Side)
14. Breakout (Live) (Runaway B-Side)
15. Raise Your Hands (Never Say Goodbye 12" B-Side)

Interestingly the B-sides were all from the UK or Euro editions of the singles, so it was obviosuly something put together from the label this side of the atlantic.
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